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#5941 Kjudoon

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Posted 30 August 2015 - 11:05 PM

Meh, I stop nascar by just capping their base. Either I win because they never show up, have an interesting fight on their base, or lose because my team kept doing nascar and they get me on the next pass because they haven't figured it out.

If you're running skirmish, well, that's your own fault then. ;)

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Not to mention the teamspirit is absolutely zero.


Team spirit? I've not seen that since ohhh I dunno... January 2014? March maybe?

#5942 nehebkau

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 05:30 AM

View PostCookiemonter669, on 30 August 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:


today the Canadian server seems to be having an maple syrup od,pings are flunctuating between 140-330 for me

i was just in match where i just had to ignore a cored brawler panther and suicide zap heimdelights hellbringer


Yes, there are some Canadian routers in Montreal that are utter crap. Been giving me between 150-350 pings. Obviously another contract awarded to mob contractors.

#5943 jper4

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 05:36 AM

only time I can somewhat break nascar is if i'm in an ecm mech and I say "i'm joining the fatties" then the rest of the team is torn between the overwhelming urge to NASCAR vs the equally overwhelming urge to hide under the ECM so their paint doesn't get scratched. has been the cause of many discos I think when people's heads exploded under the pressure.

suggesting go left did once gain me the praise of the team for coming up with such a revolutionary new tactic. we won 12-2.

#5944 Soulstrom

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 08:52 AM

*My Whine

Trying to promote your event; dealing with trolls; and defending against people who rail against children's cancer research.

#5945 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 09:40 AM

View PostSoulstrom, on 31 August 2015 - 08:52 AM, said:

*My Whine

Trying to promote your event; dealing with trolls; and defending against people who rail against children's cancer research.


Just respond by putting up a picture of a Sarah's jenner

#5946 mad kat

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 10:18 AM

This event is great for helping me quit MWO, Can't be arsed playing with the current lurm and long range snipefest spam.

Oh wait this is the daily Whine i'm not supposed to post that i'm glad to NOT be playing here. Wonder how long i can stretch out my break?

#5947 Sarlic

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 11:25 AM

I have no idea what you are talking about, and frankly i don't care either. If that's your opinion, fine by me. I disagree.

But if you think i do 'wrong positioning' in every match. Then you are flat-out wrong. Sure it happens, one false move and you are dead. It's a thing which can happen to any Assault.

Most of the time i have a legit complain about some stunt like that is being pulled off. Why would i walk at certains points away from lance mates? It heavily depends on the situation. It's a weaponplatform. it's a mixed bag of hardpoints. Not suppose to cruise on his own.

As for the NASCAR goes: It's one of the basic flaws of map design: centralised points and PUG behaviour. Look at the old heatmaps for example. Or notice how this 'old' behaviour is still present in the New Forest Colony. (which if you don't follow the group as a Assault or have no back up you get smoked.)

Because i don't see where this 'lot' comes from. I see you, but not alot. (Perhaps in the past?) If you only would knew it's not about (only) tactical advantages, it's about getting caught up when you get thrown in a full random 12 man team when nobody seems to think of each other. The Atlas has painfully shortcommings in our current gameplay. I agree, other mechs are better at the same job. But i can still deliver a punch with it. It depends what builds is being run. It depends what your playstyle is (agressive, layback, flank for example) Which i agree on the full 12 random rocketeers. This is why i prefer playing in group que with my unit because they know how to support the Assault group in the very least.

One thing always misses most of the time in these matches: essential information. Nobody wishes to share enemy movement, target information and more. Critical information is often not shared in the solo que. Yes, perhaps a few matches. --> Believe me i have tried communication enough times in the solo que. Often with succes, and many cases not a succes when you get ignored. Not to mention the amount of gauss spam and laser vomit reached on a critical point right now.

I personally think and in my opinion you are forgetting that the gameplay has changed. Alot. In somewhat negative way.

I don't herd like sheeps and go with the meta wh*res.

To put in short: i am not some pugger who is there for the solo. But for the team. Big difference.
The Atlas is ment to be supported. It dishes out damage as no mans before when its properly supported.

Just fresh off the boat today (exceptional, but 400-600 range is normal when the Atlas gets supported:)
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I never pretend to be a pro/comp/mr big ego player or anything. But i know how to pilot, mind you? This is what makes it worth piloting it and a team who knows what he's doing supporting the Assault.

Perhaps i should change my mentality and turn in the usual pugscrub. :ph34r:

Why i am putting myself up to write a post for a guy who has his judgement set already. I am not going to lower myself and point some fingers..

One last note: Do i end up with matches where do about 200 damge? Ofcourse... You still have to deal with 12 random guys. Do i end with matches in 600-800 range? Ofcourse! (And yes i record and playback my matches to learn from it)

But i would like to thank you anyway, sir.

(But for what's it worth, i do appreciate your advices / tips, please dont feel offended)

Edited by Sarlic, 31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM.


#5948 Catra Lanis

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 01:22 PM

My 9K was at 1.1 and 300 matches a few days back, now I need 40 kills to get back. I know it is not a good mech right now but I did good enough to keep my nose above the water before. 18 losses in a row. What am I doing wrong?

On another not I made good on my threat and refused the nascar bs.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 31 August 2015 - 01:30 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2015 - 02:47 PM

View PostDogmeat1, on 31 August 2015 - 10:19 AM, said:

It's not because I am a great assault player, its just that I follow those above rules.


i recall that certain game when i was the only one who tried to help our dire wolf left behind when enemy suddenly flanked and backstabbed us while you together with the whole team completely ignored the map and moved straight ahead in a wedge when they killed us and then they killed the rest of the team from behind and when i said something like 'are you blind' you said that i being in a crow had to position myself better, which probably meant to lead the flock of geese leaving enemies to kill our slow ones

that the game after which i began to call you liek you know i call you

i would avoid any your advice as a plague

#5950 Sarlic

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 12:10 AM

View PostDogmeat1, on 31 August 2015 - 10:53 PM, said:

Sarlic, I am not trying to attack you. My apologies for my comments appearing overly harsh; I was speaking more in general to the large group of people frustrated by the constant nascaring. Honestly I don't believe you are a bad guy. You obviously want to be there for your teammates but you have to understand that is often not the way you appear to your teams. We have dropped together a lot more than you realise, just most of the time I was on the other team, or didn't respond to your comments. I fully admit that I can be real a** in the game. As a former kickboxer and judo competitor I thrive on competition and if someone talks smack then I love talking it back to them. However I can go beyond that and be rude to players who don't deserve it at all. Once I've calmed down I often realise what could have done better but the fact remains that berating/insulting your team is not conductive for creating teamspirit or letting people actually enjoy the game.

Rather than getting frustrated about maps, meta, mechs and other players, I believe it is better to take a more positive outlook at try to find ways to either play with them or counter them more effectively. Nascar is going happen but the degree that it affects you is still somewhat controllable. Yes there are going to be those mind-stunningly stupid games where you just want to sit down and cry in a corner but a lot of games really aren't that bad. For every clueless player on your side, just remember there is likely a matching counterpart on the other team too.

I do recommend getting out of that atlas sometimes though. I know you love the chassis, I love a lot of non-top tier mechs too. But it is a very specialised mech that only performs in certain situations and no amount of rebalancing is going to help that or reduce the frustration of trying to play it in all situations. Slow short range brawlers have just always been at a disadvantage in all forms of battletech and mechwarrior. But getting good in other mechs will make playing the atlas more fun too. One of the best ways to learn how to beat a mech, is to learn its strengths/weaknesses inside and out by playing it. That's initially why I started mastering all the lights and assaults and it made me a much better medium player as a result.


No problem, i get your point.

I do get out of that Atlas though! In case you are wondering: grabbing some coffee, getting out and get laid and other things.

Jokes aside. I do test other mechs and read up. But i don't play all the time with it. I sometimes use my 'throwaway' account. I am not sure what makes you think i am a 'basic' Atlas pilot if it's only about positioning and the obvious shortcommings of this mech. I got 15 of them. All variants have a positive ratio on them. All builds that work in combat situations, wheter its brawl range or longer range. But if you think my 100 ton is a waste on the field when it jumps out of that dropship then that is your opinion!

When you look at certain mechs the Stormcrow, Timberwolf and the new Artic Cheetah is a perfect example of mechs who outclasses every other mech in their class. Talk about objective balance between mechs.

Well i do admit sometimes i can say something that i am not very proud of. But it's like assuming that i do it every time, which it's not. In al honesty i am fairly a gent but when things reaches boilingpoint and i start to curse i usually take a teabreak. (Cursing level: over 9000 20 stomps)

But it's certainly legit to blame the team in certain situations. Often due a slugfest of mechs not focusing fire, or not thinking about their Assaults for example. I am mostly trying to point out what we did wrong and call out that i have seen nice tries. That's usually better then screaming death and murder like 'You suck team'. Which everybody can say when he or she is frustated, even you.

Since PSR got introduced i do experience less racing on the maps. But often you still have to deal with 12 braindead people. Either could be a languague barrier or the PUG mentality ("I'm on my own and i don't care about others") which is a common loss by the way. And then you sure as hell have a legit reason to complain what people did wrong.

I know currently the Atlas looks like a teddybear to cuddle with, but that does not prevents me playing it. It's still a challenge. In my opinion the game should have stayed only IS side. No clantech, no rediculous gameplay speed and especially never ending balance issues. Because we're about to hit the third major rebalance..

It doesnt have to be top tier, al it matters is the pilot behind it and it needs team mates to be effective. This is what most people are forgetting. It can't tank 4 mech, but the iconic and lore based stories about the Atlas makes people think it can do it, hence all the people who are not satified with Atlas and their scores.

For what's worth my stats says it's still rising in our current gameplay. So i guess i am doing something right ;). And... thats the pilot in a by others defined crap mech!

Edited by Sarlic, 01 September 2015 - 06:12 AM.


#5951 Bill Bullet

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 04:24 AM

You know the only thing, the ONLY thing that pisses me off, that drives me to actual anger in this game is purposeful TKing. Getting fragged by a pair of evolutionary mistakes who's deepest thought is wether they should think about their sister or their dog while they jerk it is the one thing I get salty over.

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 05:14 AM

View PostBill Bullet, on 01 September 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

You know the only thing, the ONLY thing that pisses me off, that drives me to actual anger in this game is purposeful TKing. Getting fragged by a pair of evolutionary mistakes who's deepest thought is wether they should think about their sister or their dog while they jerk it is the one thing I get salty over.


I know what you mean; I have dropped with one person (I will not mention any names) and have him turn around and systematically start shooting at his own team mates for no reason whatsoever. He was in an Adder and after he took down 2 of us before we even started to engage the enemy on the map, it took another 4 of us to bring him down - meanwhile half the enemy were just standing around the map gawping at us while the other half went in pelting us all with fire until we died.
The lesson of this is this: If you are going to TK (team kill) then expect your team to let the enemy kill your team mates because they only want to see you dead in that drop and all future ones.

#5953 Sarlic

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 06:59 AM

Oh man. I just love our current balance man. Nobody believed me when i said it would go out of hand.

It just digust me how many people of our Community are boating stuff.

It's just very stale when you see the same one button warriors popping up with the same gauss/laser spam (Or ERPPC+Gauss DW if that matters).

Like it can't run anything else.

Boring.

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 07:05 AM

View PostSarlic, on 01 September 2015 - 06:59 AM, said:

Oh man. I just love our current balance man. Nobody believed me when i said it would go out of hand.

It just digust me how many people of our Community are boating stuff.

It's just very stale when you see the same one button warriors popping up with the same gauss/laser spam (Or ERPPC+Gauss DW if that matters).

Like it can't run anything else.

Boring.


SAYS THE LRM NOOB BLEHBLEHBLEH

#5955 Sarlic

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 07:07 AM

View PostIqfish, on 01 September 2015 - 07:05 AM, said:


SAYS THE LRM NOOB BLEHBLEHBLEH

You wish! :)

On the other hand: you can't blame them when other weapons values in terms of damage and more are miles behind.

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 08:14 AM

View PostSarlic, on 01 September 2015 - 07:07 AM, said:

You wish! :)

On the other hand: you can't blame them when other weapons values in terms of damage and more are miles behind.


Agreed.
Hate the game, not the player.

#5957 Spr1ggan

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 08:33 AM

MGS servers down for maintenance, unable to upload Ground Zeroes save data. :(

Edited by Spr1ggan, 01 September 2015 - 09:55 AM.


#5958 Sarlic

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 10:01 AM

View PostIqfish, on 01 September 2015 - 08:14 AM, said:


Agreed.
Hate the game, not the player.

I may hate player who not able to run anything else in their hands. Seen enough players who can't run anything else because they get used it. :ph34r:

When i take a peek at some unit players. Then i frankly i know enough.

Edited by Sarlic, 01 September 2015 - 10:09 AM.


#5959 Soulstrom

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 10:53 AM

Promoting events!! :)

Everyone go over the community-run events page and check it out. Some of our members are running some pretty spectacular things with some great prizes!

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Posted 01 September 2015 - 12:09 PM

View PostSarlic, on 01 September 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

I may hate player who not able to run anything else in their hands. Seen enough players who can't run anything else because they get used it. :ph34r:

When i take a peek at some unit players. Then i frankly i know enough.

Appearances can be deceiving. Before joining Lords i played for AS which were pretty much a full brawl unit at the time. I had only seen Lords players running with sniping builds and didn't think they would be great at brawling. Then when we did in house practices i got the **** beaten outta me even at the brawling. Turned out they were all really good at it.





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