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[PremithiumX]

Need to gripe/complain about aspects of your or someone else's play? Then this is the thread for you!
NO NAME AND SHAME
My whine is that the old Daily Whine thread was mysteriously removed, I loved lurking there.
And a big KUDOS to Hellen Wheels for getting this started.

Edited by PremithiumX, 18 March 2014 - 09:52 PM.

[Rear Admiral Tier 6]

In before lrms blah blah this and that.

I accidentally sold one of my LRM10 packs today,stupid me

[Ghostchips Condensate I and II]

Yesterday i was doing great! Today terrible. i need to Learn to play..

[Ustarish]

what happend with the old daily whine thread?

[PremithiumX]

Played an assault match on River City earlier, and we had a lance of 3 assaults and a heavy that never left the safety of the perimeter defenses. We won, but it lasted 'till the timer expired and was about the least fun I've ever had playing the game. Methinks it was a coordinated effort to munchkin up some early stats. Lame

[Ustarish]

but seriously... what happened to this thread?

yeah. i will whine about it till someone enlighten me.


whine: as a light pilot i cant duel anyone anymore. previously once i met a someone [im talking about light vs light action] we could duel.
even if one of us had lrm support most of those lurms missed.

[Ghostchips Condensate I and II]

Still appalled that i am the worst player ever, and resort to scouting in mediums.. and that i play this game for unhealthy amounts of time.

[Fang01]

Terribad assault pilots who think my Light is their personal ecm module and cry when you point out their failings

Edited by Khajja nar Jatargk, 22 March 2014 - 11:36 AM.

[xX PUG Xx]

I'M SICK OF FLIPPING LRM'S!!! Yes, they have changed them a little, Yes, they travel faster. But really does EVERYONE have to have multiple launchers and 2 or 3 LRM boats on their team........................

Anyway, I'm going to go blow he dust off my Stalkers

In fact I would like to nominate the DEV team that decided LRM's needed buffed for an award, the Knuckle sandwich award. Awarded for messing with Karma, LRMageddon was bad enough, a rinse/repeat is PAINFUL.

(Note: almost everything I type should be taken in jest. Life's too short too take a game so seriously that you can't laugh while being ripped to pieces by digital munitions )

Edited by xX PUG Xx, 22 March 2014 - 02:39 PM.

[Kjudoon]

My whine is that people are whining about LRMs. I mean good LORD, people!!! Put on your big boy pants and learn to adapt!

[pomomojo]

Kjudoon, on 22 March 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

My whine is that people are whining about LRMs. I mean good LORD, people!!! Put on your big boy pants and learn to adapt!

There is no adapting. You can either play a poptart or play LRMs. Anything else is futile against premades

[Kjudoon]

pomomojo, on 22 March 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

There is no adapting. You can either play a poptart or play LRMs. Anything else is futile against premades

Then I guess ragequit is the only alternative. Something I almost did in November because pugging alone sucks. I joined the Seraphim instead to see if the game was better with friends. Then like a curtain drawn back, MWO became worthwhile and a pleasure to play.

The game is never going to be a stylized duel or texas cage match ever again. PGI will not remove indirect fire. It will not remove long range weapons like ERLLs ERPPCs or ACs. The best you can do is learn better map awareness, tactics and builds to combat what is the reality of the game. Just like in real warfare, long range weapons are undisputed kings. Guided indirect weapons moreso. The guy with the knife may be highly lethal and skilled in arms reach, but needs to be a sneaky monkey to get in close and stab him in the back. Brawling now must be fast and stealthy with high map and situational awareness. I'm going to go do a thread on Risk/Reward play.

Edited by Kjudoon, 22 March 2014 - 04:22 PM.

[AntharPrime]

Continually dropping with teams that never listen to your text warnings about the 2 enemy lances that you see stomping up behind your team.

[Arcturious]

LRMS. That is all.

[KuroNyra]

Light Mech, Y U SO SMALL! I CAN'T HIT YOU!

[Jon Gotham]

Kjudoon, on 22 March 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

Good, but sad points:(

Whilst I agree broadly with what you say mate, your statement does highlight the VERY sad state of the game.
Ranged weapons ARE KING. Nothing works better than they do. They are just as effective at their optimal range right up to point blank, with the exception of lrms-for now.....
Why would anyone build a brawler mech? What is the point? They are useless at range, take damage closing to the enemy and take even more when at fighting range. They do no more damage at close range than ranged builds do in the main, so again what is the point?
The way the game is set up it encourages the hiding, cowering ridge hugging meta game to the nth degree. It teaches players to hide and cower, to not flank or move at all. It encourages you in your assault mech to linger and lurk-not to assault....
No they won't remove indirect fire and nor should they-but they should NOT ever be encouraging the campfest we currently experience either. A team should consist of balanced builds with a FEW specialised mechs-not what we currently have. Adapt in MWO means run long range pp build or get lost basically. Play a style you don't like or be at a disadvantage mr brawler....

People say flank and use cover, but when the greatest portion of your team is made up of lrm boats or pop tarting monkeys your small CQB contingent will near enough always be outnumbered, and thanks to game design the enemy long rangers can still fight you at close range too you'll be swiftly overwhelmed due to half your team being 800m cowering behind a ridge!
So again, go long range or get out the message seems....

PGI seem to be unaware of what the playerbase do when they make design decisions. People are usually cheap, they will use and exploit every last thing they can to win. You buff something, they will boat it to oblivion having a toxic effect to the gameplay. You make a mech class too strong, people use and abuse that. I don't know what they can do at this point, because in my own view the game is losing the plot.
If you don't play heavy/assault mechs that are range focused-your play experience won't be that great.....

That said, I have had some serious fun murdering lrm boats past few days with my Ember. The satisfaction of executing the boater-fotm "people" is beyond measure:)

Edited by kamiko kross, 23 March 2014 - 07:21 AM.

[Kjudoon]

See my Risk/Reward thread in game balance. That is the only way you're going to weight the game back to short range. Otherwise, reality rules and reality is long range weapons are better than short range the same way the rifle is better than the musket or bow and arrow or slingshot.

There is also a huge disconnect between what some of the MW fanbase thinks battle shood be (big stompy robots walking towards each other to duke it out by pressing armor, and what a gamer base of those brought up on easy kill weapons will do. The reason those long range campers win so effectively is because in real life those tactics win better.

Of course you are showing the classic example of what works and what the counter for LRM boats is and that is smart brawling or a good hard push.

Edited by Kjudoon, 23 March 2014 - 08:39 AM.

[ManDaisy]

God damnit. I hate LRMS they are so cheap. How am I suppost to rack up the kills in my LRM boat if you keep LRMing me.

[Kjudoon]

Oh I hate it when they use my own tactics against me too! How dare they?!?

[Hellen Wheels]

You mean this feel?
D-Don't know about anyone else, but I'm having a blast in the new "meta" and I am only whining about it b/c I need to do housework instead of playing MW:O

Kudos, PGI, damn you!!!!

Edited by Hellen Wheels, 23 March 2014 - 03:15 PM.