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[ChewBaka]

Yes, I kid you not. Its about damned time. After all, those who are in favor of the LRM buff are constantly saying how its only fair as it deserve parity with direct fire weapons...well, sure...how about you also suffer the same side effect as ACs and PPCs?

We can accidentally hit our teammates if they get in our way. Why is it LRM boats get to fire with impunity even when their own teammates might be blocking the way?

Frankly, I think brawlers and light mechs will be less inclined to complain about the LRM buff if we could force LRM boats to have to hold their fire by hugging their teammates. This is a tactic that is often used when engaging multiple opponents. Light mechs are especially good at inducing cases of accidental FF.

I don't see why LRM boats should be exempt from this. I think its only fair to force LRM boats to check their fire like everyone else when there is a wild melee going on. No more indiscriminate fire where only a small percent of their LRMs might possibly splash onto their teammates.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Charlie Pohr, on 31 March 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Yes, I kid you not. Its about damned time. After all, those who are in favor of the LRM buff are constantly saying how its only fair as it deserve parity with direct fire weapons...well, sure...how about you also suffer the same side effect as ACs and PPCs?

We can accidentally hit our teammates if they get in our way. Why is it LRM boats get to fire with impunity even when their own teammates might be blocking the way?

Frankly, I think brawlers and light mechs will be less inclined to complain about the LRM buff if we could force LRM boats to have to hold their fire by hugging their teammates. This is a tactic that is often used when engaging multiple opponents. Light mechs are especially good at inducing cases of accidental FF.

I don't see why LRM boats should be exempt from this. I think its only fair to force LRM boats to check their fire like everyone else when there is a wild melee going on. No more indiscriminate fire where only a small percent of their LRMs might possibly splash onto their teammates.

LRM's can hit friendly targets.

[Mcgral18]

Already in game. Missiles will hit allies if they are too close to the target.

[Joseph Mallan]

Now that's what I call customer service!

[Lyoto Machida]

[Lynx7725]

... Which frickin' server does the OP play on that friendly LRMs don't do damage?

[Joseph Mallan]

Neverland server?

[AlmightyAeng]

It's the same server with anysize group queues.

[Lyoto Machida]

Lynx7725, on 01 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

... Which frickin' server does the OP play on that friendly LRMs don't do damage?

They had it last on the test server February 29th.

[Zervziel]

If Arrow IVs ever get put in then you'll see some friendly fire! And it will be glorious. As it is, I'm still waiting for knock downs to be put back in. Oh the crying!

[Nicholas Carlyle]

This is the stuff we deal with on a constant basis, a bunch of players who have no idea how the game actually works, but come and whine.

[Zervziel]

Too be fair, it is the forums, mate. The day it isn't full of jaded players spewing toxic bs or new players complaining about one weapons systems or another is likely a maintenance day. Give it a couple hours and they'll be back to bitching. Even if they move to a new game, they'll keep acting the same way.

Edited by Zervziel, 01 April 2014 - 09:28 AM.

[stjobe]

I use enemy 'mechs to catch incoming LRMs for me all the time, and they take damage just fine. They even die from it.

Edit: I also do the same with direct-fire, and the funny thing is they never get clued in that it's their own team that's killing them - they just rage about "unkillable lights" and how "lights are OP"

Edited by stjobe, 01 April 2014 - 09:41 AM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Zervziel, on 01 April 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

Too be fair, it is the forums, mate. The day it isn't full of jaded players spewing toxic bs or new players complaining about one weapons systems or another is likely a maintenance day. Give it a couple hours and they'll be back to bitching. Even if they move to a new game, they'll keep acting the same way.

That would be great, if Paul didn't seem to listen to these kinds of people.

But here we have it, buff to 175, say you are nerfing to 160, then actually nerf it to 150 and take LRM's back out of the game.

If they were ever really back in the game, which I still feel like they weren't against good players.

[Zervziel]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 01 April 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

That would be great, if Paul didn't seem to listen to these kinds of people.

But here we have it, buff to 175, say you are nerfing to 160, then actually nerf it to 150 and take LRM's back out of the game.

If they were ever really back in the game, which I still feel like they weren't against good players.

All I can say is I don't care what they do as long as they don't screw up the LRMs flight paths. They used to fly at max height before making a mid-air 90 degree turn and landed on you from directly above, rendering all forms of cover useless. Those with AMS quickly found themselves with a bunch of new friends.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Zervziel, on 01 April 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

All I can say is I don't care what they do as long as they don't screw up the LRMs flight paths. They used to fly at max height before making a mid-air 90 degree turn and landed on you from directly above, rendering all forms of cover useless. Those with AMS quickly found themselves with a bunch of new friends.

That's fine, and I agree, PGI sucks at flight paths.

But the speed buff was actually a good way to come at LRM's, which are still a giant catastrophe even after the change.

[Zervziel]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 01 April 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:

That's fine, and I agree, PGI sucks at flight paths.

But the speed buff was actually a good way to come at LRM's, which are still a giant catastrophe even after the change.

Quite frankly, I don't mind the missiles as much as I minded the poptart gauss and ppc boats back when they were a problem. LRMs have always had a chance of being interfered with before impact, especially if the target is deep in a AMS heavy friendly formation.

[Bagheera]

StJobe nailed it. "Pulling" incoming lrms into an enemy mech is standard procedure for anything reasonably fast with a near by slower opponent.

[Mcgral18]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 01 April 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

That would be great, if Paul didn't seem to listen to these kinds of people.

But here we have it, buff to 175, say you are nerfing to 160, then actually nerf it to 150 and take LRM's back out of the game.

Apparently that was a typo on Newman's part:

Matt Newman, on 01 April 2014 - 09:24 AM, said:

Just a Correction

I wrote that missile speed was changed to 150 when in fact it was changed to 160

Sorry for the mistake

[Abivard]

Lynx7725, on 01 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

... Which frickin' server does the OP play on that friendly LRMs don't do damage?

Why the same server that has all these LRM boats that are killing people of course.

Not sure how they log into it, I know I have never been on it.