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[Zplayer]

Malieus, on 24 March 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

is there a thread where the top ten post what they used?

Good call Malieus.!

Ok I'm starting this post for all the people who ended up in the top 10 of the last faction challenge. If you were not in the top ten of your faction then please do not post!!
For the people who did end up in the top 10 of ever which Faction I think it would be excellent if you could post your experiences, mech's you used and load outs etc I think a lot of players new and old will benefit from it and it would be good to hear about some of the good matches.

I primarily used the Banshee 3E with 3 AC5 and 2 ER LL and I ended up 7th on the Steiner chart at the end - I was in first spot on Saturday night but only wish I could have played a lot more on the Sunday -oh and I only played Skirmish matches as well.

1 of my best matches I played on Saturday I beat my highest damage and still ended up the losing team with 1327 damage. But that Banshee was a good weapon of choice for me even though I'm not an AC fan, I was regularly scoring over a 1000 damage, which is something of a rarity in the past with my other mechs.

So come on Mech Warriors lets hear how you got in the top 10! - and don't forget to post where you came

Edited by Zplayer, 24 March 2014 - 05:26 PM.

[ShinVector]

Primarily: Ember 4MLs + 4MGs. (Could have probably done a bit better had brawling in lights not been nerfed. )

My last match for the tourny probably shows a bit of the problem for brawlers.. Grrr..


Edit: Added video.

Edited by ShinVector, 24 March 2014 - 05:28 PM.

[Zplayer]

ShinVector, on 24 March 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

Primarily: Ember 4MLs + 4MGs. (Could have probably done a bit better had brawling in lights not been nerfed. )

Nice to see a Light up there and scoring well, I expect most will be Assault Mechs but good call indeed !

Nice work in the Vid btw!

Edited by Zplayer, 24 March 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[mp00]

Hi, 4th Marik here
I used a assorted group, including the
Ember with 4ML/4MG
Cicada 3M with 4ML/1MG
AS-7 RS with AC20, 2 ERLL LRM-20
Raven 3L with 2 ERLL
and mostly my LURM boat BLR-1S with 2 LRM 10, 2 LRM 15, 3ML, TAG

My experiences included lots of intense fast paced games in various modes especially skirmish, a few long sniping in both skirmish and assault, my best results were on skirmish and conquest.

I played a lot of games to grind my way up there and came out with a way worse KDR and win/loss then I started with lol

I would have a few bad games as enemy lights narc'd me and lit me up for enemy missile boats and poof 6 seconds later I was exploring the whole map in small burning chunks.

Swarmed by enemy lights, dakka'd to pieces when caught out of position, 2 airstrikes, sniped by Raven 3L 2 ERLL, never did see him (nice job, think it was Zito), needless to say I had many worse games then normal with soo may great pilots on but got in enough good ones to place.

It was intense, aggravating, confusing, mind boggling, frustrating, and great fun through it all.

While there is much id have liked to see (lock factions for tourney start so all could enter, separate tracker for people doing damage to mechs on same team, would like top 50 or more players should be more fun catching each other moving up and down seeing who is online fighting, and the matchmaker grouping available people by there elos + tourney standing.

Thanks PGI, all the players (my apologies to all those out there I rained to death), my stuffed dog fuzzybeer for support and not letting me quit!

Edited by mp00, 25 March 2014 - 08:51 AM.

[Jonathan Paine]

Hi, Jonathan Paine #7 FRR here. Figured it was time to show that my placing in the early endurance tournament was not a fluke

I played a variety of mechs. My best match was probably in my hunchie-G, running ac2 dakka (6 kills, 5 assists 900 or so damage). I also leveled up the banshees, did well with a frankenbuild running LRM, LL and 5 MLs as well as the ballistics one. When I got too tired, I went with a missile heavy DDC with enough ballistics and energy to keep smaller mechs off me.

As for my tournament experience; well fun to see what you can do in any given match. Gets old after a while; and I hate that doing well in a match turns into "Frag - if only I had gotten that last kill - this match is useless!!!" I'm looking forward to not playing in any more tournaments like this. If they want me to play tournaments, they better be team based and ranked according to skill. Maybe a crazy day of people qualifying, then a knock-out tournament or some such.

Enough said, back to playing with friends and chatting on raidcall

[axe64]

i didnt use many lights but i seen people with ravens 2 er large lasers and either priority airstikes and art or improved versions of that getting higher scores
i used mostly lrm boat with a 40 rack 2000+ ammo i had medium lasers as well in either a battle master or a stalker
i found that i was getting higher scores when i was fighting close to front lines maybe 300 meters form my target and tagging my enemies its rare to get good spotters and if you do just only rely ion spotters and sit back 1000 meters theres alot of stuff that can get in the way or shoot down your missles on their way to target plus at 300 meters you can see your rain of death in all its glory raining down on your enemies

[Ordellus]

Zplayer, on 24 March 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

Good call Malieus.!

Ok I'm starting this post for all the people who ended up in the top 10 of the last faction challenge. If you were not in the top ten of your faction then please do not post!!
For the people who did end up in the top 10 of ever which Faction I think it would be excellent if you could post your experiences, mech's you used and load outs etc I think a lot of players new and old will benefit from it and it would be good to hear about some of the good matches.

I primarily used the Banshee 3E with 3 AC5 and 2 ER LL and I ended up 7th on the Steiner chart at the end - I was in first spot on Saturday night but only wish I could have played a lot more on the Sunday -oh and I only played Skirmish matches as well.

1 of my best matches I played on Saturday I beat my highest damage and still ended up the losing team with 1327 damage. But that Banshee was a good weapon of choice for me even though I'm not an AC fan, I was regularly scoring over a 1000 damage, which is something of a rarity in the past with my other mechs.

So come on Mech Warriors lets hear how you got in the top 10! - and don't forget to post where you came

Came in 8th on steiner.

Mechs used:
Atlas DDC - 2 large pulse, 2 machine guns, 3 SRM6 (people talked shit in chat on a weekly basis about this mech ever since beta when I created it, and all of a sudden after this weekend they're popping up every other game....not gonna lie kinda mad)

Stalker 3f - 2 medium lasers, 2 tag, 4 LRM15

Cataphract 4x - 2 Gauss

Experience:
Positives - Most of the weapons seemed rather balanced (aside from the obvious AC bull), Pugs were more willing to fight than normal although I'm sure this is because there was a larger than usual number of players dropping solo specifically for the event

Negatives - OH GOD THE KILL STEALS (seriously guys, does no one have any sense of decency....it's supposed to be a test of skill and you swoop in on the last 20 damage to take someone elses hard earned victory...), Arty noobs (I'm shocked by how many "good" players resort to using this to replace actually being good), Pugs are still pugs (I found myself raging at how terribly stupid the average team can be far too often), Lack of in game voice comm in 2014

Edited by Ordellus, 25 March 2014 - 12:29 AM.

[kaffeangst]

I played only a few hours over the weekend, managed 9th FRR with my secondary account. Used only the Trial Spider: 4x Machine Guns and 1x ER Large Laser. At one point I was #2 Overall Score, with a 137 kph Spider : )

[Ordellus]

mp00, on 24 March 2014 - 07:59 PM, said:

It was intense, aggravating, confusing, mind boggling, frustrating

^^ but with the grind looking for a competent team so that the game wasn't useless (from a trying to beat previous games standpoint)

kaffeangst, on 24 March 2014 - 11:00 PM, said:

I played only a few hours over the weekend, managed 9th FRR with my secondary account. Used only the Trial Spider: 4x Machine Guns and 1x ER Large Laser. At one point I was #2 Overall Score, with a 137 kph Spider : )

You're claiming you got something like a 5 kill, 900 ish damage game..... 10 times...... in a machine gun spider...... in a couple hours?

Sounds legit.

Edited by Ordellus, 24 March 2014 - 11:11 PM.

[Mordin Ashe]

No.8 in Rasalhague. I was No.2 for a few hours but I got a long series of stomps and called it for the day.

My Mechs:
Oxide, I tried both SRM and Streak variant but they all proved fairly useless in the current heavy AC and heavy LRM meta. For Oxide to shine he must be 100% of time within some 150m from the enemy without JJ or ECM. I scored one or two fairly good games with damage over 700 and 5 or so kills, but most of the time playing Oxide was a pain.

Raven-3L: My favorite for all times, now with 3xML and SRMA-6. A neccessity for every team due to its ECM, though I had hard times getting kills with it this weekend. Unlike the long term average, the teams were too heavy, most having 9 assaults on one side (!!!), meaning there was little space for a cloak and dagger playstyle which is exactly what I shine at. Before I could finish my scared and beaten enemies, some Battlemaster or Banshee appeared out of nowhere and took the kill. Still somehow fun, but the results left too much to be desired. A lot of damage, a lot of disarray in battle, but lacking kills were not enough to improve the score.

Battlemaster 1S: My LRM boat, 4xLRMA-15, 3xML, 11 tons of ammo. I've been playing LRMs long before they were "cool", but eventually I encountered less and less LRM boats in high ELO brackets with ACs still dominating. While this beast got me to some 2k points, skilled players can simply avoid it and when skilled players in Banshees is all you meet, there is only little LRM boat can do.

Cataphract 4X: THE beast. 4xAC/5, 9 tons of ammo. While I suck at heavies, this Mech made me more points than anything else. Multiple games with 800+ damage and 5+ kills made my saturday rather enjoyable, but on sunday I was repeatedly stomped by extremely heavy (more like assaulty to be exact) teams of enemies. Even in such cases this Mech held its own very well, scoring 500-600 damage even on such games, but lack of kills and general lack of options when you get steamrolled by 10 assaults made me quit playing. Even though I originally wanted to get at least 2300 points, I just couldn't force myself to hit the "launch" button after having three hours of loosing streaks.

A little hint at the end: For results, use ballistics coupled with a few lasers. Banshees are the new kings of such approach in the assault category, while Jagers and Cataphracts are still more than viable. Mediums usually shine with AC/20 and a few MLs. All in all nothing new under the sun, but it works.

[Jonathan Paine]

Yes, milking the Elo for easy matches is very praise worthy. Disappointed by Kaffe :-(

[Eglar]

Ordellus, on 24 March 2014 - 11:07 PM, said:

You're claiming you got something like a 5 kill, 900 ish damage game..... 10 times...... in a machine gun spider...... in a couple hours?

Sounds legit.

Well I did see SIMOHAYHA twice in-game and he owned my ass once. And every time it was in a trial spider. So yes, it's legit.

Jonathan Paine, on 25 March 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

Yes, milking the Elo for easy matches is very praise worthy. Disappointed by Kaffe :-(

Not sure but he should have raised his light elo by quiete a bit now.

Edited by Eglar, 25 March 2014 - 12:30 AM.

[Ordellus]

Eglar, on 25 March 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

Well I did see him twice in-game and he owned my ass once. And every time it was in a trial spider. So yes, it's legit.

Video or it didn't happen

Seriously though, it's going to be really hard to believe that without a video

Edited by Ordellus, 25 March 2014 - 12:27 AM.

[ShinVector]

Eglar, on 25 March 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

Well I did see him twice in-game and he owned my ass once. And every time it was in a trial spider. So yes, it's legit.

*Currently scratching my head whether did I come across any annoying spiders last weekend. Maybe not on my timezone.
Didn't have too match brawling with any lights due to LRM Storm.

[prtN_spz]

Hey Everyone, Proton #1 Marik here.
For this tourney i used the CTF-3D and VTR-DS. Both had 2ppc 2ac5 builds and other CTF-3D had 2 gauss. Ofc, the biggest scores was given by a DragonSlayer, i did 4-5 kills 1400-1500 dmg 3 times. But, i also did pretty well in gaussphract - got 3-4 matches with 4-6 kills and 1k dmg and i used arty and airstrikes in gaussphract only once due to this 3-4 games.

I was playing agressive and very caucious on movement and situation awareness, but yeah, ofc i had that games where i was have to go suicide rush to make the team do smthng. So, as i think, playing agressive and smart - key to win. And do not go for an easy kills, might turn bad for you.

Also have to say it was an interesting competition between me an odwalla, was so stressfull especially when we was droping against each other, good job and thanks to Od.

Edited by Proton, 25 March 2014 - 02:48 AM.

[Eglar]

Proton, on 25 March 2014 - 02:46 AM, said:

Hey Everyone, Proton #1 Marik here.
For this tourney i used the CTF-3D and VTR-DS. Both had 2ppc 2ac5 builds and other CTF-3D had 2 gauss. Ofc, the biggest scores was given by a DragonSlayer, i did 4-5 kills 1400-1500 dmg 3 times. But, i also did pretty well in gaussphract - got 3-4 matches with 4-6 kills and 1k dmg and i used arty and airstrikes in gaussphract only once due to this 3-4 games.

I was playing agressive and very caucious on movement and situation awareness, but yeah, ofc i had that games where i was have to go suicide rush to make the team do smthng. So, as i think, playing agressive and smart - key to win. And do not go for an easy kills, might turn bad for you.

Also have to say it was an interesting competition between me an odwalla, was so stressfull especially when we was droping against each other, good job and thanks to Od.

I was running similar builds to Proton exxcept for the gaussphract I used a Shadowhawk
My best matches were in a the VTR-DS aswell and I had a great match in a locust.

Spoiler

too bad this match didn't count towards my score in the end because it shifted out for better matches

All my matches are listed here.

Whenever I saw proton on either mine or the enemy team I knew that my actual match would not count, simply because you have to share damage/kills. During the tournament I've had my both most enjoyable and frustrating matches with Proton in the same game. Like on tourmaline desert when it was us 2 vs 10, we rotated around a rock twice, killed 7 of them before we finally both died. Or when proton told me to charge and I was the only guy charging and of course getting owned by missiles and Kaffeangst's Trial-Spider and many more occasions.

p.s. Proton: Tell your clanmate RedDiablo that he made my work hard on sunday when I didn't want to play MWO. Good job catching up RedDiablo.

Edited by Eglar, 25 March 2014 - 03:08 AM.

[Mr D One]

Artillery Strike and a ping of less than 100 helps.....

[Szegedin]

Eglar, on 25 March 2014 - 03:05 AM, said:

I was running similar builds to Proton exxcept for the gaussphract I used a Shadowhawk
My best matches were in a the VTR-DS aswell and I had a great match in a locust.

Spoiler

too bad this match didn't count towards my score in the end because it shifted out for better matches

All my matches are listed here.

Ha, that locust match almost made it into your top ten!

[Mighty Spike]

Proton, on 25 March 2014 - 02:46 AM, said:

Hey Everyone, Proton #1 Marik here.
For this tourney i used the CTF-3D and VTR-DS. Both had 2ppc 2ac5 builds and other CTF-3D had 2 gauss. Ofc, the biggest scores was given by a DragonSlayer, i did 4-5 kills 1400-1500 dmg 3 times. But, i also did pretty well in gaussphract - got 3-4 matches with 4-6 kills and 1k dmg and i used arty and airstrikes in gaussphract only once due to this 3-4 games.

I was playing agressive and very caucious on movement and situation awareness, but yeah, ofc i had that games where i was have to go suicide rush to make the team do smthng. So, as i think, playing agressive and smart - key to win. And do not go for an easy kills, might turn bad for you.

Also have to say it was an interesting competition between me an odwalla, was so stressfull especially when we was droping against each other, good job and thanks to Od.

Yeah,i saw it... One match we dropped together on Caustic. You were running your DS alone around the Caldera,so i decided to stick with you in my Victor K . We had a nice rush together. Was Fun as Hell. They died like flys You had ,i think 4-5 kills and somewhere around 1300 DMG..i was goin out with 3 kills and 700 dmg...nice match o7

Edited by Mighty Spike, 25 March 2014 - 06:35 AM.

[Gramling]

Hi everyone 5th Steiner here.

Mechs I mainly used:

Stalker 5M
1 ML
1 TAG
4 LRM 15 2000+ ammo

Atlas D-DC
2 LL (still too hot )
3 SRM 6 (Enhanced Range)
1 AC 20 (Enhanced Range)

Raven 3L
1 PPC
1 TAG

Some Catapults because I am leveling them to master atm, but, well, I am not good at playing heavies so forget about them.

Experiences:
Most of the time I used my Stalker but I did some of my scoring-matches with the Atlas.
Max dmg of the raven is not really high so I quickly changed to the assaults cause dmg was part of the formula.
That didn`t make it easier because during the contest I sometimes encountered really good scouts who continously rupted my boat and I became first-target seconds after I fired my first salvo, so getting a lock on a target or even surviving was not as easy as everyone seems to think. I only managed to get high dmg scores if I was lucky and encountered an enemy group without or few ecms and scouts. A group without ecm or scouts usually is rare, but during the contest everyone tried to do as much dmg as possible which is definitely easier with assault mechs than with light ones as well as the fact that it is more likely to get a kill (20 points instead of 10 for an assist) with e.g. an alpha strike of an assault. At least this is my explanation why gunboats were so successful during the contest.
Concerning "Kill Steals", I think there is no such thing in a team game. I didn`t use artillery strikes at all and the max amount of kills I got was 7....so no ace of spades fo me Aaaaand I played a lot, so I guess you shouldn`t underestimate the time top players put into this. I guess there are some lucky ones but I also guess it was hard work for most of the top players (or me getting older I won`t deny that option ) to get there.

MFG

Gramling