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[AUSSIETROOPER4]

Have not been able to find any clan mechs equipped with ECM so far.
Perhaps some of the lighter mechs or variants? I have only looked at the basic ones.

Edited by 116th NorskaFresh, 24 March 2014 - 07:01 PM.

[Craig Steele]

116th NorskaFresh, on 24 March 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Have not been able to find any clan mechs equipped with ECM so far.
Perhaps some of the lighter mechs or variants? I have only looked at the basic ones.

Far from shunning it.

Almost every light mech has a variants with ECM / BAP and / or TAG.

There is also the Hellbringer (Loki) heavy Omni that in its prime is an electronic marvel, ECM, AP, and TC.

The Clans have several later developed mechs that also include electronic warfare options.

[Skylarr]

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The Clans used the Guardian ECM as the basis for their own ECM Suite, which is lighter and more compact than the Inner Sphere model but functions identically. The Draconis Combine used the Guardian as the basis for their experimental Angel ECM Suite.

[AUSSIETROOPER4]

Fair enough. Would not have thought to look at the Loki.

[CyclonerM]

And there is a Kit Fox configuration which carries it.

[ManaValkyrie]

The thing you have to consider is that the Clans, are militaristic to a 'T', ECM/ECCM equipment isn't dishonourable on a battlefield. On the simple grounds it's part of 'modern' and 'future' warfighting technology. Under certain circumstances it would be unacceptable to use it, for example a CoE between 2 warriors, but during a trial of possession over 'x' it would be acceptable because the commander is making the best use of his resources.
Edit: In Other words it really comes down to how that it is utilized really.

Edited by ManaValkyrie, 25 March 2014 - 07:58 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Interestingly, and to add onto what Mana stated, Clans also utilize NARC and TAG as well. Practically speaking, they absolutely can and will use laser designation via TAG for airstrikes, Arrow IV, or LRM support. Same with NARC, though NARC is often used by mechs that have their own LRMs as well, like the Adder which uses the NARC to apply a bonus to its own LRM fire, taking full advantage of the lack of Clan minimum LRM range.

[Craig Steele]

ManaValkyrie, on 25 March 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

The thing you have to consider is that the Clans, are militaristic to a 'T', ECM/ECCM equipment isn't dishonourable on a battlefield. On the simple grounds it's part of 'modern' and 'future' warfighting technology. Under certain circumstances it would be unacceptable to use it, for example a CoE between 2 warriors, but during a trial of possession over 'x' it would be acceptable because the commander is making the best use of his resources.
Edit: In Other words it really comes down to how that it is utilized really.

I'm not so sure about your CoE example though.

Assuming it is augmented, a warrior would certainly be entitiled to use every facet of his mech and equip accordingly. If he wanted to take a AP because terrain was good for hiding, there would be no shame in doing so. If he knew his opponent was taking electronics there is no shame in using ECM to hinder that, or a TC.

[Edward Mattlov]

116th NorskaFresh, on 24 March 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Have not been able to find any clan mechs equipped with ECM so far.
Perhaps some of the lighter mechs or variants? I have only looked at the basic ones.

No, but I think that PGI may try to balance the clans by not allowing us to have ECM variants.

[Gyrok]

Neg, I think they will allow us to have ECM...

Either way...Clan AMS is a laser system...(i.e. no ammo!)

[Craig Steele]

Gyrok, on 25 March 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

Neg, I think they will allow us to have ECM...

Either way...Clan AMS is a laser system...(i.e. no ammo!)

Laser AMS is technology they have, but is not in widespread use.

All the standard Variants use MG based AMS like the IS only more efficieint with ammo usage.

Don't quote me but I think I remember it as 1D6 less than IS for ammo, but still 2D6 missiles destroyed.

[Edward Mattlov]

Gyrok, on 25 March 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

Neg, I think they will allow us to have ECM...

Either way...Clan AMS is a laser system...(i.e. no ammo!)

I do hope that Hellbringers will be added to MWO, this game truely needs an ECM heavy.

[DeathlyEyes]

116th NorskaFresh, on 24 March 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Have not been able to find any clan mechs equipped with ECM so far.
Perhaps some of the lighter mechs or variants? I have only looked at the basic ones.

The only thing that comes to mind like this that was seen as dishonorable was the Chameleon Light Polarization Shield. http://www.sarna.net...rization_Shield This was mothballed. Probably kept in storage in case it was needed as a means of last resort. The only practical use of the technology was for assassination which the clans wouldn't ever really do in the first place.