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[Why Run]

Ok. Different game this afternoon. (Different Cataphract - no hero bonus). 400 less damage, 1 more assist, couple spot bonus' because we had more LRMs) So 400 damage to other mechs is worth less than assists and spotting. Which doesn't mean anything regarding team contribution. I contributed less team damage toward the win, and as a result, it was actually a much tougher game. Still touched 2/3s the team, and we still won. How is this worth more though!?!



MANY LESS component destruction though. So that SHOULD have balanced out. How did I get 7k less this morning,with 400 less damage?

[Joseph Mallan]

Why Run, on 26 March 2014 - 10:59 AM, said:

Ok. Different game this afternoon. (Different Cataphract - no hero bonus). 400 less damage, 1 more assist, couple spot bonus' because we had more LRMs) So 400 damage to other mechs is worth less than assists and spotting. Which doesn't mean anything regarding team contribution. I contributed less team damage toward the win, and as a result, it was actually a much tougher game. Still touched 2/3s the team, and we still won. How is this worth more though!?!



MANY LESS component destruction though. So that SHOULD have balanced out. How did I get 7k less this morning,with 400 less damage?

7,500 per Assist?

[Why Run]

Which nets out. Correct, but there is NO weight to the 400 damage difference!!!!!!!

[Bilbo]

Why Run, on 26 March 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

Which nets out. Correct, but there is NO weight to the 400 damage difference!!!!!!!

Why don't you post a screenshot of the upper half of the reward screen, so we can see where all the money is actually being made?

[Why Run]

I never seem to have enough time to SS, save it, and get back before it closes...

[Bilbo]

Why Run, on 26 March 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

I never seem to have enough time to SS, save it, and get back before it closes...

Half of your earnings are sitting at the top of the scroll bar. Hard to tell you why there's a difference if we can't see the whole picture.

[Dracol]

just want to point out something... you got 2,100 cbills for one spotting assist.

If you want to up your cbill gain and exp gain, add a tag. Them targeting bonuses add up quick.

Also, salvage bonus is based off of what is left of the enemy mechs. If a team can deal less damage to take down enemies they earn more Cbills but less exp.

Edited by Dracol, 26 March 2014 - 11:39 AM.

[Why Run]

Right, if your team has LRMs, I noted that in the earlier game, fewer LRMs left fewer opps for that bonus, but I made it up with the Components. The 1 assist bumped the 123k to 130k, but it doesn't account for 400 damage. That's where I'm profoundly lost.

[Dracol]

Why Run, on 26 March 2014 - 10:59 AM, said:

Ok. Different game this afternoon. (Different Cataphract - no hero bonus). 400 less damage, 1 more assist, couple spot bonus' because we had more LRMs) So 400 damage to other mechs is worth less than assists and spotting. Which doesn't mean anything regarding team contribution. I contributed less team damage toward the win, and as a result, it was actually a much tougher game. Still touched 2/3s the team, and we still won. How is this worth more though!?!



MANY LESS component destruction though. So that SHOULD have balanced out. How did I get 7k less this morning,with 400 less damage?

Compare the salvage totals. You have over 5K more in salvage then your first match. Nothing you can really do to control that unless you can level mechs with Direct fire weapons straight to the CT so that the rest of the mech can be broken apart and resold.

just a note, LRMs are great damage dealers, but suck a leaving anything behind to strip.

[WarHippy]

DaZur, on 26 March 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

Which in context is actually even more amusing when you realize I'm a Purebred Pole from Milwaukee...

​Talk about a contrarian paradox!

Joseph Mallan, on 26 March 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Astounding!

(I had to look up Contrarian to be sure I knew the meaning!... Not only did I know the meaning I am the very definition of the term!)

Here:
See!

I feel like you guys would get along well with a guy I know. He is a Polish Elvis impersonator that owns and runs a Cuban restaurant.

[dario03]

Why Run, on 26 March 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

I never seem to have enough time to SS, save it, and get back before it closes...

Didn't this game add in a screenshot function? Pretty sure it saves screenshots in the game folder so just just hit prnt scrn, scroll down, hit prnt scrn again. Or run a program like fraps to take screen shots.

[AlmightyAeng]

Yup. Prnt Scrn puts a jpeg automatically in a file for you...I think it goes something like Pirahna Games>MWO>Bin32>User>Screenshots.

[Why Run]

Team enough? Fine, Tickle a few, then kill a lance. Stupid ass reward system, since I did not "help" any more than the first game, but oh well. Poor new players. (PS the missing stats were just the kills, assists and win bonus's)



As to SS, I'm too low tech to know that, but thanks, I'll check those out...

[Lyoto Machida]

Fut, on 26 March 2014 - 08:45 AM, said:

Why the hell not?
This isn't a collectible Mech game. The intent isn't to have the largest Mech Garage known to man.
If you want to collect them all, have at it - just don't complain that the game is shit because it's taking you too long.

So what IS the point of this game? I'm at 64 mechs already...do I buy individual XLs for all the ones that need them instead of swapping them around? Fully fit them out with modules?

What would I have done with the 500 million C-bills (just a guess) sitting around if I had just bought, say, 8 or 10 mechs???

There is a guy in my unit with 100+ mechs...I'm sure there are guys with as many mechs as me AND 500 million C-bills. I'm not sure what we're supposed to be doing with all this money. Just playing and killing mechs over and over again?

For the record, I don't worry about how many C-bills I have as long as I don't drop below 30 or 40 million. But aside from collecting more mechs and shooting things mindlessly, what is the point?

[Why Run]

You must play a lot... I can barely keep it above 10m. And I hardly spend... I have 16 mechs apart from my Phoenix... Only paid for 1 hero and the hangers...

[DaZur]

WarHippy, on 26 March 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

I feel like you guys would get along well with a guy I know. He is a Polish Elvis impersonator that owns and runs a Cuban restaurant.

I'd eat there!

The entertainment must be...well, "entertaining." Dziekuje...deziekuje barzo...

[Fut]

Lyoto Machida, on 26 March 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

So what IS the point of this game? I'm at 64 mechs already...do I buy individual XLs for all the ones that need them instead of swapping them around? Fully fit them out with modules?

What would I have done with the 500 million C-bills (just a guess) sitting around if I had just bought, say, 8 or 10 mechs???

There is a guy in my unit with 100+ mechs...I'm sure there are guys with as many mechs as me AND 500 million C-bills. I'm not sure what we're supposed to be doing with all this money. Just playing and killing mechs over and over again?

For the record, I don't worry about how many C-bills I have as long as I don't drop below 30 or 40 million. But aside from collecting more mechs and shooting things mindlessly, what is the point?

Great question, Man.
If it were up to me, the game would have Repair & Rearm costs after each Drop.
Also, I'd imagine that C-Bills would be used later on during CW/FW to help pay for Drop Ships, additional base defense and all that jazz (in a perfect world).

The reason why I think that the C-Bill earnings should not be increase, is because of players like you and the people you've mentioned (don't mean this in a negative way). Clearly earnings are more than enough - seeing how you guys have virtually all the Mechs and tonnes of cash still laying around.
If the earnings were altered, like the OPs request, you'd be sitting on double what you are now.

C-Bill earnings are fine.

[Jetfire]

I think the big problem is earn CBills is all there is to do in the game, except for the very recent partially functional acheivement system. Given this trying new mechs is probably one of the biggest draws that has kept many people in the game since open beta began. I run premium and hero's so I make decent money, but the friends I have that only invested $20-40 basically gave up on the grind and lack of content. One guy I know just bought straight up cash a D-DC because he loves atlas's so much but rarely plays now as earning enough to try another mech without premium or hero's takes eons.

With the vast array of mechs and bays for MC only, it seems bringing up the CB earning rate would encourage more spending and more play time. A 30% boost seems ideal and preferably through boosts to the rewards like assist, tag, narc, spotting and adding more such as first sighting for scouting and a flanking reward for damage to back panels.

[Why Run]

Fut, on 26 March 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

Great question, Man.
If it were up to me, the game would have Repair & Rearm costs after each Drop.
Also, I'd imagine that C-Bills would be used later on during CW/FW to help pay for Drop Ships, additional base defense and all that jazz (in a perfect world).

The reason why I think that the C-Bill earnings should not be increase, is because of players like you and the people you've mentioned (don't mean this in a negative way). Clearly earnings are more than enough - seeing how you guys have virtually all the Mechs and tonnes of cash still laying around.
If the earnings were altered, like the OPs request, you'd be sitting on double what you are now.

C-Bill earnings are fine.

Ahh yes. Because you got it early on when the getting was good, the rest should suffer (I played back then too). I'm not asking for free cbills, I'm asking for a respectable reward, proportional to costs in this game, for ACTUALLY PERFORMING well. I played 8 games today. I posted 3 of them. the others were decent games as well, 2-3 kills, assists, save a couple testing new builds. I'm still averaging about 100k per game.

[Iqfish]

Who plays MWO in windowed mode?!