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[Edustaja]

This is Russ's Seahawks Raven

[zztophat]

...ugh.

Oh wait, if they patch april 1st... maybe this is a joke?

[Cymbaline]

I have been looking forward to a hero Raven since I started playing.

Now it's here and I don't know what to think. 2 SRM6 and 4 MGs would be what I would try to use with this Raven. Even with that you can't fight light mechs and the only thing you might good at would be finishing off heavily wounded mechs at close range.

This Raven just isn't good at all and I think I will be staying with my 2X until something prettier comes along.

[DocBach]

Seriously, where's its ECM?

I know they want to avoid pay to win accusations, but a lot of the recent heroes have been much worse than free to play options.

[Deathlike]

zztophat, on 31 March 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

...ugh.

Oh wait, if they patch april 1st... maybe this is a joke?

It's not a joke, that's the irony.

[NRP]

We'll have to wait and see, but this thing looks to be totally outclassed by the Ember and Oxide.

I would have preferred a Spider hero to be honest.

[Lukoi Banacek]

I'm disappointed in this hardpoint setup. It's definitely different....but I cannot see this offering alot, even with interesting ballistic-jumper builds that will eventually emerge. Limited utility. Doesn't seem to do anything particularly well imo. Who knows, maybe I'll be flabbergasted by some unseen synergy it has once actually in the hands of pilots, but for now....I'll pass.

Glad a new Hero got released though. Progress is progress even when it's not my particular cup of tea.

[Silentium]

Not my cup of tea, but then I don't find the ravens particularly compelling anyway. At least the raven pilots can feel the same "WTF?!" feeling I had when the oxide was unveiled :-D

[CyborgDragon]

For me the most disappointing thing is it doesn't have a twin hero called 'Muninn' I'd like to see more twin heroes like the Dragons....

[Tremendous Upside]

I think I would've named it "NARCin".

[levitas]

The lack of any energy weapons made me sad, so I booted up MWO and dropped in my 3L. We won fairly handily. 3L is still good. Guess I'll just play with it instead

[Carrioncrows]

I love it.

First raven design I actually DO LOVE and that's coming from a Crow.

Thinking
AC2
x3 mguns
x2 SRM4's or 6's.

Mmmmmmm...boy with jumpers

[Bishop Steiner]

Amsro, on 31 March 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

Crush it with the ember!

Or likely just leg it, glhf.

actually, this, well used, was so close to the anti-ember. If they had allowed for a 3rd missile rack, those 3 SSRMs would have been nice. As is, it's ...gg, close?

(Of course, I called long ago, we would NEVER see a Hero with ECM. If the Raven don't get it, why would anything else?)

[no one]

The paint job's nice. I would have given it some sort of thing to distinguish it a bit from the 4X, like a third, cockpit mounted missile launcher. As it is I guess you could do an ac/2 + 3mg + 2 srm 2s with it? I don't know, the layout doesn't grab me.

Edited by no one, 31 March 2014 - 06:28 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

LegoPirate, on 31 March 2014 - 04:45 PM, said:

4 mg 2 streaks? why would i take this over an ember?

also, should pretty clearly be named Nevermore

any idea who Huginn and Muninn were?

Suffice it to say, they well predate EA Poe.

Morrigan, on the other hand would also have been acceptable.

InRev, on 31 March 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

If you had sense, you wouldn't. Looks pretty terrible.

Which makes me sad because I was hoping for something that could actually work as a lurmisher light, for shits and giggles, but it looks like that's never happening.

well, now Light Jocks know how us Hunchy pilots have felt.

DocBach, on 31 March 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Seriously, where's its ECM?

I know they want to avoid pay to win accusations, but a lot of the recent heroes have been much worse than free to play options.

and it ain't like there isn't a free to play Raven with ECM already. So this one would be the one time they should not have had to worry.

[Alex Warden]

this HAS to be a joke... and if so, it´s a bad one, PGI

[Bishop Steiner]

Carrioncrows, on 31 March 2014 - 06:17 PM, said:

I love it.

First raven design I actually DO LOVE and that's coming from a Crow.

Thinking
AC2
x3 mguns
x2 SRM4's or 6's.

Mmmmmmm...boy with jumpers

you're daft.

[Foxfire]

Deathlike, on 31 March 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

This design is bad, and you should feel bad it exists.

The only thing that limits this design is SRM hit detection.. if they address that, as has been said they would.. than this design will be a very potent striker.

[aniviron]

This might be okay IF (and this is a big if) the missile code rewrite works tonight. With 2x SRM6 4xMG, this variant will be decent- but certainly not a must have.

The paintjob looks neat, but that's not going to be even close to enough to convince me to add a fourth raven to my flock, though.

Realistically speaking, this is an Ember that swaps four energy hardpoints for two missile hardpoints- except that the Ember doesn't have gigantic leg hitboxes that make the mech suicide to use under 200m.


The real plus from this is that it looks like they finally got around to giving the Raven dynamic hardpoints due to the hero, and unlike the last few mechs that have gotten dynamic hardpoints (particularly the Catapult, but the Hunchback too) it looks like this might actually improve the look of the mech. The big question is how PPCs, AC10/LB10, and large lasers are going to look on those arms.

p.s. I see they've given it a sensible max engine rating of 300, instead of the 295 for the 3L; I can only hope they go back and up the engine for the 3Ls by 5, and maybe finally bring the 2X and 3X up from 275; the boost from 245 wasn't nearly enough.

Edited by aniviron, 31 March 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 March 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

any idea who Huginn and Muninn were?

Odin's ravens.

Garth once said Huginn and Muninn were reserved in a discussion about hero ravens. I can't find the post.

Same money says Muninn is either beams and ballistics or beams and missiles.

Edited by Nathan Foxbane, 31 March 2014 - 06:43 PM.