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[Dawnstealer]

Huh - you know something? The next map is a very dense, "urban-style" map.

I'M JUST SAYING....

[Wintersdark]

Even if it sucked (this is not certain: quirks, and MWOcs customization allow substantial improvements) I'd play the ***k out of an urbanmech. I'd (completely seriously here) sell every light I own, and buy all the urbanmechs the moment they were released, even if I had to buy MC to do it.

An Urbanmech hero, well... (Bishop Steiner's Deputy Dawg plz) I'd be all over that like nobodies business.


And I'm an Assault pilot.

[wolf74]

Ok Lets Talk about What Quirks & modules slots should the UrbanMechs get?

Max of:
2 Weapon Modules on UM-R60 & UM-R60L
3 Weapon Modules on UM-R63

Quirks Base:
+32% Torso Twist Speed
312 deg total Torso Twist Range
-3% Heat On Ballistics
+10% Leg Internals
-20% Radar Range Sensor
+15% Seismic Sensor Range (if Module installed)

[Frost Lord]

elzock, on 21 August 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

Yeah, i see. But would u Guys take another Round in this Mech? Who wants to be tha killing target for the 'Kill loving Public'? And i'm askin' for lots of Drops. Not for a single one!

you still see locusts and it would be more effective then they are at this time.

[verybad]

wolf74, on 21 August 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

Ok Lets Talk about What Quirks & modules slots should the UrbanMechs get?

Max of:
2 Weapon Modules on UM-R60 & UM-R60L
3 Weapon Modules on UM-R63

Quirks Base:
+32% Torso Twist Speed
312 deg total Torso Twist Range
-3% Heat On Ballistics
+10% Leg Internals
-20% Radar Range Sensor
+15% Seismic Sensor Range (if Module installed)

+500% on sexiness..

I don't even need that other stuff (not saying I'd not take it though!) Anyone driving an Urbie is playing the game for fun, not being tied up with numbers

Realistically, yeah, it probably wouldn't be the best mech in the game. you know what.

Don't give a ***k. It's a freakin' god amongst the culture of battletech, It belongs in the game, even if PGI needs to make it more expensive the thing is a CHEAP mech normally) i woudl love to play in an Urbie only unit.

[stjobe]

verybad, on 22 August 2014 - 12:32 AM, said:

i woudl love to play in an Urbie only unit.

You could call it the Free Urbie Combat Corps - Yeah!

[IraqiWalker]

stjobe, on 22 August 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

You could call it the Free Urbie Combat Corps - Yeah!

The FUCC?

[stjobe]

IraqiWalker, on 22 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

The FUCC?

FUCC-Yeah!

[Emilio Lizardo]

Shouldn't these be on sale right now? They are manufactured in Capellan space, after all...

[Uveron]

This April fool’s joke is expanding at an exponential rate!

Only one hero can save the universe!

And that Hero is Urbie!

[Kifferson von doober]

elzock, on 21 August 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:

What the hell should this Mech's role be?

Weaponised suppositary!

[IraqiWalker]

Kifferson von doober, on 23 August 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Weaponised suppositary!

I think that sums it up pretty well.

[stjobe]

elzock, on 21 August 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:

What the hell should this Mech's role be?

Anything it wants, buddy, anything it bloody wants.

[Just wanna play]

Id say the problem with the urbie is pgis max armor system, unlike the engine max, the armor isnt based on stock armor so even though its role is oriented to armor and guns, it wont have any more armor then anything else its size

[stjobe]

Just wanna play, on 24 August 2014 - 11:16 AM, said:

Id say the problem with the urbie is pgis max armor system, unlike the engine max, the armor isnt based on stock armor so even though its role is oriented to armor and guns, it wont have any more armor then anything else its size

Why should it have more armour than anything else its size?

No, the problem for PGI is the same that it's always been: The STD 60 engine the Urbie comes with weighs -1.5 tons in their system. Yep, any sub-100 engine in the MWO system has negative weight.

I guess when they created their system they didn't think it through.

[IraqiWalker]

Just wanna play, on 24 August 2014 - 11:16 AM, said:

Id say the problem with the urbie is pgis max armor system, unlike the engine max, the armor isnt based on stock armor so even though its role is oriented to armor and guns, it wont have any more armor then anything else its size

No mech in all of BT could hold more max armor than another one with it's same weight. all 100 ton mechs could go the max of 618 (using MWO double armor values), all 50 tonners could go the max of 338. They all had different stock armor values, but you could adjust these when you customized your mech.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 24 August 2014 - 02:52 PM.

[Wintersdark]

stjobe, on 24 August 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

Why should it have more armour than anything else its size?

No, the problem for PGI is the same that it's always been: The STD 60 engine the Urbie comes with weighs -1.5 tons in their system. Yep, any sub-100 engine in the MWO system has negative weight.

I guess when they created their system they didn't think it through.

That isn't a problem.

[Handwaving] PGI's system merely assumes some parts of the BT system's engines are part of the chassis. As such, using a sufficiently small engine replaces those parts.[/handwaving]

Poof, you can add engines with zero, or even negative weight. The engine has weight, of course, its not magical; but replacing/removing unnecessary structural support results in weight savings.

[Ovion]

It also requires a number of external heatsinks that'll make up the weight.

If you look at this handy dandy chart:

The total weight of a 100 engine is really 7 tons.
So -2 internal HS requiring 8 external, combined with the 'core' weight of -1.5T, means a SRD60 Engine would weigh 6.5T total.

Edited by Ovion, 24 August 2014 - 04:08 PM.

[Just wanna play]

I meant for it to be properly effective and fun, not just for it to be in this game. Part of the urban mechs purpose is armor like the weight class above it (stock), but like everything else in this game its intended purpose may be ruined by the fact everything has the same armor of the same size. EX: Thunder bolt and dragon. Both are heavily armored assault mechs (purpose wise not weight class) while jagers and cats are lighlty armored fire support, but in this game they are just small heavies that have the same armor BUT fire support mechs get better hard points since those ARE based on stock load out, same with locust vs other lights.

[Wintersdark]

Just wanna play, on 24 August 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

I meant for it to be properly effective and fun, not just for it to be in this game. Part of the urban mechs purpose is armor like the weight class above it (stock), but like everything else in this game its intended purpose may be ruined by the fact everything has the same armor of the same size. EX: Thunder bolt and dragon. Both are heavily armored assault mechs (purpose wise not weight class) while jagers and cats are lighlty armored fire support, but in this game they are just small heavies that have the same armor BUT fire support mechs get better hard points since those ARE based on stock load out, same with locust vs other lights.

Quirk: Damage resistance 15% (or increased armor, whatever - see centurions' shield arm)

Done.

Edited by Wintersdark, 24 August 2014 - 07:43 PM.