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[Thrudvangar]

Hello everybody,

so i almost elited my Protector... its a pain in the ass. The Orions hitboxes are a joke.

Almost every game i get my side torsi blown apart with just one alpha or whatever. The i take damage from behind where there is nobdy behind me (not even friendly fire). I get hit in the front and the back is damaged.. Almost every time.

As soon as i'm facing one enemy, it doesnt takes a second and one of my side torso is gone or critical damaged. Also happens when i torso twist to use an arm as a shield. Hold up right arm as a shield = getting damaged my LEFT or CT..... This sucks, i never had such problems with a mech ich leveled up.

i tried out everything i can possible do to the armor.. 10 at the backtorsi, 14, 16, 20... also on the CT.. it changes nothing.. my mech is falling apart in a time i can even think about what hit me. This MUST be recorded into the Guinnes Book of World Records.

not even my HUGE CT is getting blown up, no. either me left or right torso is gone withing one or two seconds facing ONE enemy, doesnt matter wich weight class except lights. and also lights hitting the torsi that hard (mostly large laser) that it is orange and about to fall apart. I have 48 to 54 armor in the front and 10 to 16 at the back, it doesnt help, no matter what i take there.

ANY of my other mechs wich are 3 mediums and my catapult, all with XL engines and much lower armor staying 10000% longer in the battle than my Orion. And i'm not brawling with him, that would be suicide with this mech. I'm playing him as a sniper or background supporter, but as soon as i'm facing (even) one opposide mech i can count the seconds in wich my torso will blown up on one hand.

Please fix that, i like playing him, he's a good allrounder but PELASE, please fix this armor/torso shit as it takes out the fun of the game badly.

Edited by Enzlaved, 01 April 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sorry to hear that. Protector is one of my faves, with Orion's in general being done of my gave me he's. I run XLs IBM Petey much all of them and find them length durable, tbh. Not as much at my Shadowhawk maybe, but I think if tougher than the other heavies. Do you torso twist when you fight?

[Trevor Belmont]

My Orion Protector runs an AC/20, 3 MLS, 1 SRM6 and AMS. Endo Steel, 16 DHS and a STD 300 engine. I got a 2.91 K/D ratio on mine. They seem fine to me.

[Thrudvangar]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 April 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Sorry to hear that. Protector is one of my faves, with Orion's in general being done of my gave me he's. I run XLs IBM Petey much all of them and find them length durable, tbh. Not as much at my Shadowhawk maybe, but I think if tougher than the other heavies. Do you torso twist when you fight?

yeah sure i do torso twist. i wouldn't complain about that if that shit would happens in a moderate way, but, really, i never had those massive problems until i played this mech.

[Thrudvangar]

Trevor Belmont, on 01 April 2014 - 12:33 PM, said:

My Orion Protector runs an AC/20, 3 MLS, 1 SRM6 and AMS. Endo Steel, 16 DHS and a STD 300 engine. I got a 2.91 K/D ratio on mine. They seem fine to me.

i switch the loadout regular, sometimes i take an PPC, soemtimes a Gauss or two AC5, always trying ti keep ppl away from me and be careful not to get into a short range brawl where i WILL for sure die within seconds, even with torso twisting wich is useless as i dont take damage on the arms but always on the left/right torso before my CT gets blown away. I dont really know what to do with that mech. my SHDs, Griffins, Trebuchets, even my Catapult K2, all with XL engines can tank more damage than the 75t Orion with his STD engine and way more armor.

[Ngamok]

Enzlaved, on 01 April 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

yeah sure i do torso twist. i wouldn't complain about that if that shit would happens in a moderate way, but, really, i never had those massive problems until i played this mech.

They are fine since they are a decent sized mech for a Heavy. I've brawled in mine (the M) but all my others do pack more longer range weapons and can brawl if needed (except my VA). The arms aren't big to provide some shielding so you just have to twist a ton.

Also, Bishop used to hate them as well until recently

[Thrudvangar]

what armor points you guys spend on the torso?

as i said before, im playing with it to find a good split between front and rear armor (i take rear torso damage even when i get hit in the front very often...)

[Ngamok]

Enzlaved, on 01 April 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

what armor points you guys spend on the torso?

as i said before, im playing with it to find a good split between front and rear armor (i take rear torso damage even when i get hit in the front very often...)

I think my torsos are 51/13 and the center is 76/16

[627]

what I see in the last time with my orion that the outcome is really luck from matchmaking. If you have a halfway decent team you can stay with your big guys and get a thrilling match. If you're outclassed you die quick, no matter what you do, it's a stomp.

Same goes the other way, I had a victory today where I did 15 damage because I wasn't fast enough on river city (!) to get to the enemy.

Of course this happens to all mechs but you have to accept that you're a big target in that protector, standing tall like an atlas. So hide where you can or you get focused down. And by the way Hitboxes are fine now, before they adjusted them it was all CT. Not that it was bad imho, that made the Orion extremly XL friendly. But those times are gone.

/edith said I never take more than 10 back armor and the rest is max front.

Edited by 627, 01 April 2014 - 12:52 PM.

[Thrudvangar]

well i'm always a careful player, maybe i should think about it and get more agressiv and overwhelm the enemy...
always taking at least one long range weapon and try to snipe the enemy before they or my group is engaging wich isn't a bad playstyle, i think.

and i'm not getting focused in 90% of the matches, it takes only one enemy mech to bring my torsi in wich are my main weapons stored, down in a second. Thats what i dont understand. Then often, as i said before, happens that i get damage in the back where theres nobody, not even a teammate who MAY shoot my back by mistake.

[Tahribator]

Read and learn my friend: http://raksarmory.bl...n-hitboxes.html

If you're not careful, the new Orion hitboxes will get you stripped of weapons really fast. If you master the hitboxes though, it's extremely easy dictate where you take damage, which will make this a brawling beast. The Orion hitboxes are the best thing about them in my opinion.

[Thrudvangar]

Tahribator, on 01 April 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Read and learn my friend: http://raksarmory.bl...n-hitboxes.html

If you're not careful, the new Orion hitboxes will get you stripped of weapons really fast. If you master the hitboxes though, it's extremely easy dictate where you take damage, which will make this a brawling beast. The Orion hitboxes are the best thing about them in my opinion.

thanks!

[Bishop Steiner]

Ngamok, on 01 April 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

They are fine since they are a decent sized mech for a Heavy. I've brawled in mine (the M) but all my others do pack more longer range weapons and can brawl if needed (except my VA). The arms aren't big to provide some shielding so you just have to twist a ton.

Also, Bishop used to hate them as well until recently

Not so.

I complained about the honking huge CT until they fixed it.

Always liked it, and wanted to love it, since I bought my Protector the day it came out. Once the CT got reduced a little, I full on love it, though I like mine fast.

[Hans Von Lohman]

Orions are my favorite heavy mech.

Not seeing any faults with them I might add.

[JohnnyWayne]

The Orion is my main mech, I don't run Xls in it. The hitbox situation became way better since the fix but one thing is still there: I experienced that the rear hitboxes seem to be messed up. Too big or something, I got cored from 0 to death by a single LRM salvo of a DDC. That should have been 45 damage spread out, but that didn't happen. They all hit the backcenter while running.

[xengk]

Im branching out from piloting mediums into heavies, currently working on Elite for the Protector(1xPPC, 1xAC/20, 2xML, STD300).
I found that the orion handle alot like a hunchback.

It have fast torso twist like HBK but lacks the range of a HBK.
A juicy ballistic side torso that people like to aim for, but lacks the bullet magnet hump and have bit more amour.
Both have a long hanging arms that barely provide any cover.
Goes as fast as a stock STD200 HBK with the stock STD300 engine.

I have been playing it like a hunchback, providing direct fire support and brawling when needed.
Preferably I would like to do a 30 point alpha then back off quickly, or blow off limbs on unsuspecting target.
Only issue I have with Orion are, going below 80kph makes me uncomfortable.

[Ngamok]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 April 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Not so.

I complained about the honking huge CT until they fixed it.

Always liked it, and wanted to love it, since I bought my Protector the day it came out. Once the CT got reduced a little, I full on love it, though I like mine fast.

Edited by Ngamok, 02 April 2014 - 09:13 AM.

[Maverick27]

I too am working to elite my Protector right now and I have to say it's been the easiest mech to do so with yet; durable and dishes out a lot of damage. When running an XL though I do however keep some distance from the main fight and use it as fire support. Since the hitbox update a couple of months back, the mech is more viable as a brawler with STD but correspondingly more delicate with an XL.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...73a84023d260fcb

[mogs01gt]

Enzlaved, on 01 April 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

Hello everybody,
so i almost elited my Protector... its a pain in the ass. The Orions hitboxes are a joke.

One reason why I got rid of my Orion. IMO it needs larger arms.

Edited by mogs01gt, 02 April 2014 - 10:28 AM.

[Lucky Strongarm]

The Orion strikes me as a baby Atlas. My Protector runs 3x LL and an LB10X. I just fire them in chain. Right hateful mech once you get use to it.