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#61 Monsoon

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:24 PM

I'd personally love it if we got the Grand Dragon and Caesar!

A few more ECM variants like the Griffin 2N, wouldn't hurt either...

#62 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 April 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:


I'm not. If anything, I'm almost suggesting that whoever bought the PP packs got "conned" because these variants are BETTER than what they bought.


I know, I was being sarcastic.

#63 Deathlike

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:29 PM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 10 April 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

I know, I was being sarcastic.


At this point, I can't always tell who's being sarcastic or snarky.

Because, PGI won't read it either way. ;)

#64 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:31 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 April 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:


At this point, I can't always tell who's being sarcastic or snarky.

Because, PGI won't read it either way. ;)


True enough.

#65 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:38 PM

View PostMister Blastman, on 10 April 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:


edit: nevermind

Soooo no SRM fixes listed in those notes. No reason to play.

Morrowind and Dark Souls for another two weeks! Oh, and some Super Street Fighter IV Arcade edition... online, of course.


You have the Overhaul v3.0 mod installed?



#66 Dawnstealer

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:40 PM

Well, I guess I have more time to get two more Banshees and grind them out.

Still waiting on the Urbie, Hatchetman, Zeus, and King Crab.

#67 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:52 PM

I have a dream.

I dream of an MWO release where PGI reworks ECM's fundamental mechanics.

I dream of an MWO release where ECM and all the electronic warfare items provide soft bonuses and penalties rather than hard counters.

I dream of an MWO release where this allows PGI to add many new variants with ECM hardpoints, since it is not longer broken and mandatory for every mech capable of taking it.

#68 Hobo Dan

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:58 PM

CN9-AH or bust, obviously...

#freeCN9-AH

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 01:58 PM

View PostLevi Porphyrogenitus, on 10 April 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

I have a dream.

I dream of an MWO release where PGI reworks ECM's fundamental mechanics.

I dream of an MWO release where ECM and all the electronic warfare items provide soft bonuses and penalties rather than hard counters.

I dream of an MWO release where this allows PGI to add many new variants with ECM hardpoints, since it is not longer broken and mandatory for every mech capable of taking it.


Although nice and thoughtful, you're gonna have to take the red pill.

#70 Mister Blastman

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 10 April 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:


You have the Overhaul v3.0 mod installed?




YUP!

I got plenty of footage of me playing on my twitch. It is amazing.

http://www.ornitocop...l/mgso-release/

#71 Mazzyplz

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

give me the AWS 9Q with ECM

#72 DocBach

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

Pretty meh - was hoping to see stuff like the BJ-2, BNC-5S.... all phoenix mechs is lame.

#73 Deathlike

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:06 PM

View PostMazzyplz, on 10 April 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

give me the AWS 9Q with ECM


It would be the only "gamechanger" moment for the Awesome... maybe.

Now, here's a thought... if they only "fixed" the "basic variants" bug where if you mastered/elited out mechs, sold them, and then bought an unmastered variant (like, you mastered the HBK-4P, 4SP, and 4J - sold them, and then bought the 4H), you can't "get out of basic" (even if you had the XP) until you buy back two of the elited/mastered variants (4P, 4SP, and 4J in this ciase).

That would be something PGI would need to fix ASAP.

#74 Mister Blastman

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:09 PM

Dragon with ECM and an arm with 6 ballistic slots. That'd be a miracle.

Basically, think the 1N with a arm upped to 6 slots + ECM. Yeah. It still wouldn't be OP and it would be a hell of a lot of fun.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:17 PM

View PostFeatherwood, on 10 April 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

I see three possibilities:
  • MASK enabled 'Mechs: CTF-3L, WVR-7D, WVR-7M and no Flea? not likely - lowest probability
  • Grand Dragons family: DRG-1G, DRG-1GKDC, DRG-5K - we need ECM heavy + Dragon needs weapons visuals
  • The year 3050 "latest" (too many variants to list) - it's PGI after all, random illogical option - highest probability
I would be really glad to Grand Dragon, especially to ECM one.



Problem here is this...
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^ Dragon

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is a Dragon.


But this...
Posted Image

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is a Grand Dragon.

Since PGI isn't likely to change that... I doubt we'll see a Grand Dragon, unless they're willing to change the Dragon.

#76 kesuga7

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

no more ecm please

well at least don't make it the best varaint of the chassis
such as the Spider/Raven 3l


ECM shouldn't justify/improve the viability of a neglected chassis such as awesome or dragon :blink:

Though mechs with only 3 varaints should be top priority for new variants
  • Raven
  • Locust
  • Centurion
  • Quickdraw
  • Griffin
  • Wolverine
  • Spider
  • Kintaro
  • Thunder bolt
  • Jaggermech
  • Shadowhawk
  • Battlemaster
  • Banshee
  • Jenner
well new mechs are pretty much more pheonix pack varaints




more locusts! ;)

8 energy battlemaster!
stop making the awesome 8Q obsolete <_<
6 energy 2 missile battlemaster

6 energy locust! - 20 tonns though :L
2 missile 2 energy locust hmm

3 missile 3 energy 1 ballistic shadowhawk
3 Energy 3 missile shadowhawk?!?

2 ballistic - 1 missile - 6 energy thunderbolt

Edited by kesuga7, 10 April 2014 - 05:35 PM.


#77 Jin Ma

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:36 PM

View PostKoniving, on 10 April 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:


Problem here is this...
Posted Image
^ Dragon

Posted Image
Posted Image
is a Dragon.


But this...
Posted Image

Posted Image
is a Grand Dragon.

Since PGI isn't likely to change that... I doubt we'll see a Grand Dragon, unless they're willing to change the Dragon.


Both dragons have lower arm attenuators according to TRO. the first art for dragons and the one known for the dragon was a misrepresentaion. Its the reason they originally had a concept art with the straight arm and then changed it to the correct one based on TRO

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:43 PM

View PostJin Ma, on 10 April 2014 - 05:36 PM, said:

Both dragons have lower arm attenuators according to TRO. the first art for dragons and the one known for the dragon was a misrepresentaion. Its the reason they originally had a concept art with the straight arm and then changed it to the correct one based on TRO

I think it was to overlook the need to put in a clause for non-lower-arm mechs with functioning lower arms.

After all, that same TRO says it doesn't have a hand actuator -- take a look at it again.
Thus either way the same number of slots are free -- there.
Various build sheets say it has the hand actuator (left arm) but not the lower arm actuator (right arm).
Both have identical free slots.
It's also the only visual difference between the two and would add both character and a whole new use for Dragons.

Also the original Dragons in MWO even with the bicep... didn't have a lower arm actuator. I'm pretty sure they used stat sheets before they made it.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:54 PM

View Postkesuga7, on 10 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

more locusts! ;)

6 energy locust! - 20 tonns though :L
2 missile 2 energy locust hmm
I do like my ankle biters.... but this means I have to make hard choices...
Like to keep the old, or sell and buy new, or just keep them all and buy 2 more locusts!? (though that's 2 more mech bays!)

Ah decisions...

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:36 PM

None of those except one of the Shadowhawks piqued my interest. Don't play assaults, don't need a 65 tonner that isn't a Catapult or Jager, and Locusts are adorable but crap.

EDIT: I would try a Dragon with ECM despite its being a Dragon.

Edited by Daekar, 10 April 2014 - 07:38 PM.






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