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[Noobatron x300]

First game I've come across where if I played 8 hours a day all weekend I couldn't get 35 wins, somethings badly broken. I'm clearly being forced into fights I cant win repeatedly.

[Helmer]

SortaSane, on 18 April 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

I've seen this before today whenever I try to save a new loadout. The new parts are set in place, but some of the old parts are also left in place when they should have been stripped out. Earlier a CASE and some heatsinks I took out showed up in their old locations alongside the new components I added, putting me over tonnage and in one location over the number of slots. I just removed the parts a second time and saved again, problem solved.

Deathlike, on 18 April 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Must go premade. Otherwise your experience suffers greatly.




It's not "broken" but it's not working correctly. I think the game "forgets" a particular transaction - particularly removal. In fact, even the "strip mech" function occasionally fails to strip out every component... so there's an actual issue AFAIK.

I usually run my same 4-5 different 'mech depending upon my mood , so I suppose I don't tinker in the 'mechlab as much as some. This was the first time I've ran across it. I'll make sure to follow up and make sure it's a known issue. If anyone can accurately repo it, PLEASE let me know.
Thanks guys!

Noobatron x300, on 18 April 2014 - 01:19 PM, said:

Why are people saying 3 straight hours 2 wins you say ? I'll tell you why , Ironically this is one of the few games that I've come across that go's above and beyond punishing you for being a new player, It feels like your almost fated to not lose a lot but lose far far far more then you win . The thing is when you do this a lot of new players simply leave and refuse to play a brutal game that punishes them for trying to learn, Leaving you with a game with mostly nostalgic old timers and the very few new players that can stomach staying logged in being forced into a life of cannon fodder for the old timers punishing them even more so. Rant off.

Agreed. Many in the playerbase have commented the same. The new user experience is , unfortunately, brutal and unintuitive . There are numerous ways to make this easier both in the game client and out , again unfortunately, PGI has higher priority items and promises to work on.

Hopefully this will change sometime in the future as new players are obviously very important to everyone.



Cheers.

[Roadbeer]

Helmer, on 19 April 2014 - 08:27 AM, said:

Hopefully this will change sometime in the future as new players are obviously very important to everyone.



Cheers.

1.6 Million sign ups (probably ~15% guesstimate are alt accounts). How many "new users" do they think remain who are interested in a niche genre?

Focus should be on retention and return of players at this point. You can only cycle out so many new players before there aren't any new players left.

Offering free things is a good way to get people back, but offering free things with no real change in game play only gets them back to earn their free thing before they return to (insert other game title here)

[Helmer]

Roadbeer, on 19 April 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

1.6 Million sign ups (probably ~15% guesstimate are alt accounts). How many "new users" do they think remain who are interested in a niche genre?

Focus should be on retention and return of players at this point. You can only cycle out so many new players before there aren't any new players left.

Offering free things is a good way to get people back, but offering free things with no real change in game play only gets them back to earn their free thing before they return to (insert other game title here)

Agreed, and not to derail the thread, but using the metric of how many people have hit the forums , is not the best. "Registered Forum users" are simply individuals who have hit the forums at least once.
As you pointed out yourself, data can be viewed many different ways. When PGI stated "X number of people drop solo" , it's fairly easy to question the statement and provide explanations on why that is IE "Of course people drop solo, we cant 5-11 man" ,etc.

The fact that past the initial first year or so , less people bother to come to the forums only indicates that the individuals who are now signing up new accounts are those not interested in the forums, giving feedback,etc. The "Hardcore" are the ones who signed up the first 6 months and used the forums often. (To play Devil's advocate, you could read this data a whole different way)

Retention is very important, and getting Launch Module and CW out are incredibly important on those fronts , as well as fulfilling a promise to players. A New User experience is, in my mind, one of the most important things in terms of the long term growth and health of the game.

I guess at this point it's up to the individual if they want to believe PGI's statements that the playerbase is healthy , and the number of unique log ins is growing.


Start a new thread somewhere and we can bandy stats and retention. I think we've steam rolled and derailed this thread enough ( I am bad at that)



Cheers.

[William Radick]

Keep it up PGI, all this free stuff and private lobbies soon soooo happy- I'm glad I stuck it out!

[MrWhite]

Noobatron x300, on 19 April 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

First game I've come across where if I played 8 hours a day all weekend I couldn't get 35 wins, somethings badly broken. I'm clearly being forced into fights I cant win repeatedly.

The problem is the ELO system for matching players I believe... I'm not as good as I used to be but I still have a high ELO back from the days of 4 kills to every death... but I still see players who are clearly new with questions like "how do I get out of 3rd person?" and spectating players who are dumb firing LRM's at 100m. Meanwhile in the same game you have four mans where they are all running pop tarting highlanders with 2 PPC's and 2AC5's co-coordinating on team speak... guess who's going to win?

Kinda ties to what I'm going to tell roadbeer...

Roadbeer, on 19 April 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

1.6 Million sign ups (probably ~15% guesstimate are alt accounts). How many "new users" do they think remain who are interested in a niche genre?

Focus should be on retention and return of players at this point. You can only cycle out so many new players before there aren't any new players left.

Offering free things is a good way to get people back, but offering free things with no real change in game play only gets them back to earn their free thing before they return to (insert other game title here)

Prolly a good few of new signs up are experienced players who just make new accounts to get that cadet c-bill bonus or whatever it is and use that to run a new chassis they want. I am sure there are more then afew people who instead of buying mech bays for their account just use the four free ones and when they get filled up make a new account. This also means they should be getting thrown into games with trully green players and are basically clubbing seals. I wonder if there is a way to track accounts used per IP address and maybe get a better idea how much this does go on?

PGI ya listening?

Edited by MrWhite, 19 April 2014 - 10:14 AM.

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 19 April 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

1.6 Million sign ups (probably ~15% guesstimate are alt accounts). How many "new users" do they think remain who are interested in a niche genre?

Well, about 3 million kids graduate from high school each year. So off hand I would say there are about 3 million potential new users in any given year.

[AntharPrime]

If only MWO could attract those numbers. With an average spending of 6 dollars per month that would be a lot of cash.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 19 April 2014 - 10:29 AM, said:

Well, about 3 million kids graduate from high school each year. So off hand I would say there are about 3 million potential new users in any given year.

LOL, that's using PGI stat analysis. By that logic then there should potentially be 90 million people signed up since obviously BT has appealed to everyone who has ever graduated high school since it's invent.

niche genre is niche

Edited by Roadbeer, 19 April 2014 - 11:04 AM.

[daehawk]

Guys...wheres my free mech and bay? I counted so I know I completed it but to be sure I checked the status page and it says 100% completed too...so wheres my mech and bay?? ..>When I did this for the Centurion it was instant.

EDIT: I should add I see no redeem button in my profile.

Edited by daehawk, 19 April 2014 - 11:27 AM.

[Miss Hannigan]

Same here, shows 100% complete but no option to redeem and no mech in free bay.

-nm, logged out and back again and its there.

Edited by Dephik8, 19 April 2014 - 11:38 AM.

[Captain Fancy Pants]

Thanks, this is great, should have more free stuff challenges like this in future. I've been playing all day and I can honestly say I've had some of the best matches ever today.

Cheers!

[daehawk]

Dephik8, on 19 April 2014 - 11:34 AM, said:

Same here, shows 100% complete but no option to redeem and no mech in free bay.

-nm, logged out and back again and its there.

Ill try that ty.

[Cadpig]

Anyone else not getting the mech, even after completeing the challenge and waiting well over fifteen minutes? According to the stats screen, I completed it and still don't have the mech.

[Dhulfagar]

just for everybody u need to reconnect for getting the free mech and bay just advice for all

[Tyranuus]

Cadpig, on 19 April 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

Anyone else not getting the mech, even after completeing the challenge and waiting well over fifteen minutes? According to the stats screen, I completed it and still don't have the mech.

I'm having the same issue
Completed the challenge yesterday, still no mech today when I've logged in.

Edited by Tyranuus, 19 April 2014 - 12:53 PM.

[daehawk]

I now have it in my inv but its not showing anything on the web...thats cool long as I have it though.

[coddevi]

Just want to say thank you for the free MECH CHALLENGE ......

Completed it today and get it 30 min later

AWESOME Mech

Fist Mech i won t change anything Happy with it

[13racken]

Hey guys, I am a newbie who has an extended love history for Mech Warrior.
I completed this challenge with medicore states and was hoping to claim the mech and do away with the newbie mechs that keep getting me killed.
I click the link and it shows that I have completed this challenge 100% but I do not see any redeem button or code. Please advise!

[Alaskan Nobody]

13racken, on 19 April 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I completed this challenge with medicore states and was hoping to claim the mech and do away with the newbie mechs that keep getting me killed.

It isn't a redeemable thing - it pops up automatically in your mechbay, though it takes 15-30 minutes or so for it to register and put it there.

Give it a bit, and if it still isn't there, send a ticket to support.