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[Ovion]

PhoenixFire55, on 21 April 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

I'll just leave this here ... just in case you are an Urbie fan like myself.

This made me laugh.

I may just try this one day.
Though probably in a H over an Ember.

Edited by Ovion, 13 May 2014 - 06:49 PM.

[Bigbacon]

so I tried the LBX10 today in 2 rounds and it definitely fun.

I was only use it to hit at ranges less than maybe 150m so I was getting full 10 damage to one area. I wasn't hitting frontal armor either only going for the rears, arms, or legs and normally in range for the 4 SL to be effective.

i did expect to kill more things, I had a 2 full alphas on the rear CT of a stalker and it didn't die.

it certainly fits my play style of waiting for the brawl and then getting in behind people who are occupied for rear shots or just running around to create confusion hoping my team will take the opportunity to fight while half their team is fixated on me.

Ammo might be a problem with only 2 tons. first round I went through maybe half and the second I had 5 rounds left at the end. no way for me to get more ammo on there unless I lose weapons and I'm sure removing 2 SL for 15 more rounds is a good investment.

Edited by Bigbacon, 14 May 2014 - 09:02 AM.

[crossflip]

I run the AC5 4ml build on my FS9-H, and I've been getting great results. AC2s... Just stay away from them.

[Tiamat of the Sea]

Feh. I use an AC/2 on my H and it's loads of fun. I don't expect to be shooting things from across the map, but I also mount a solid 6 small lasers.

FS9-H Nailgun

As light 'mechs go it's a bit slow, but the AC/2 lets me contribute for a while from a distance, and with the new firing rate it actually goes well in tandem with the small lasers in close combat. I've used it to finish off enemies from quite a distance that could easily have taken a lot of shots on me while I approached them; it's great for when you see an ally lose or flee a battle and leave behind a nearly-crippled or armor-stripped enemy.

Plus, cockpit shake.

Mind, it's hard to use right, you have to be in the right state of mind, but still...

[Bigbacon]

had some more really good rounds with the LBX10. still think an AC/5 is better choice because of all the damage being done to one area and not possible spread out.

2 tons of ammo is iffy as well and I feel I really need to show restraint and fire control with it.

quite a toss up at this point. the AC/5 also gives me back my 4 ML which is certainly worth it.

Edited by Bigbacon, 15 May 2014 - 12:40 PM.

[Mad Ox]

Swapped to ER LL and ML in 1 arm and 2 SL and 4 MG. 280 XL

So far not bad ER for early game sniping and then as things get chewed up ML/SL's/MG's for clean up

[Tiamat of the Sea]

Bigbacon, on 15 May 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

had some more really good rounds with the LBX10. still think an AC/5 is better choice because of all the damage being done to one area and not possible spread out.

2 tons of ammo is iffy as well and I feel I really need to show restraint and fire control with it.

quite a toss up at this point. the AC/5 also gives me back my 4 ML which is certainly worth it.

This doesn't math out. If you still have two tons of ammo, swapping the LB10-X to an AC/5 only gives you three tons- and four medium lasers weighs four tons.

Also, the LB 10-X is by necessity a different weapon type entirely from 'standard' autocannon. This is not a weapon for seeking out your enemy first and harming him, it's a weapon for mutilating things that have had some armor stripped. Using it requires a completely different playstyle, one that I don't embrace well in light 'mechs and which is the reason why I don't use the build itself. I -do- use it quite nicely in mediums, though, particularly one of my Blackjacks, but that's besides the point.

The LB 10-X is a finishing weapon, so if you're going to run with that, you don't want to be firing it at its extended range until a lot of stuff is grouped up and armor-stripped. Instead, you have to play coy and pop up into combats already going on, strip the last armor off a location with your laser(s) and pump a close-range shot in to destroy equipment and (if you're lucky) the location on the enemy 'mech as well. If you don't have the right mentality while driving it to do that, then it just doesn't work as a light 'mech weapon.

My recommendation is on the AC/2, because it has virtually the same damage rate as the AC/5, generates more consistent cockpit shake, weighs two tons less (and thus creates room for its own ammo and extra jump jets, armor, AMS, or whatever), and is also just generally more fun to me but that's not a main consideration. It also makes for better practice at staying on target while moving.

Edited by Quickdraw Crobat, 15 May 2014 - 02:31 PM.

[Bigbacon]

i NEVERfire the LBX unless i am almost sure it is going to hit all one spot, i never fire it long ranges.

for me the AC2 opened up bad habits.

ember is my best mech/platform so for me, it works and I can usually have extremely good rounds with it.

[GunnyKintaro 01]

lol this is great i might make a urbie!!!!

[Escef]

If you are going to run only 1 ballistic on an FS9, use the H. Unless you are strapped for mechbays or c-bills, and your only option is the Ember. I run an AC5 (2 tons ammo), 3xML, & 255XL on my H, and I do well enough with it.

[Bigbacon]

Escef, on 17 May 2014 - 11:38 PM, said:

If you are going to run only 1 ballistic on an FS9, use the H. Unless you are strapped for mechbays or c-bills, and your only option is the Ember. I run an AC5 (2 tons ammo), 3xML, & 255XL on my H, and I do well enough with it.

I like the bonus on cbills with the ember. I'm new enough and always getting new mechs and stuff that keeping cbills around is still tough.

[Bigbacon]

sad face....

haven't used my ember in a while but the AC5 rate of fire change killed it...sucks horribly now and it was my favorite mech.

think I'll go back to LBX-10 + 4SL.

[Koniving]

Bigbacon, on 20 April 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

love my ember

been running it with an AC5 and 4 MLs since I got it but yesterday I tossed an AC2 on there and while not doing better or worse, I'm torn on keeping it or not. I am pretty good shot with either one, and the AC2 I can keep the firing going at range.

Why not both?

[UrsusMorologus]

That last video looks like a really good patrol build