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[Tereva]

Hello there,

It's almost time for me to pick a 3rd Orion and I am wondering which one I should give a go.
So far I have the ON1-V and the Protector(ON1-P). They are actually very similar so I would like to get something a bit different if possible.

Right now I am thinking about the ON1-VA, and go missile boat since I do not have any yet.

Orion owners out there, any comment or other idea ?

Thx

[Modo44]

K for hot energy builds. VA for lots of missiles (not only LRMs). M if you want a XL300 engine and a pre-upgraded variant (the price is less than if you had to buy DHS and XL300 separately).

[Fuggles]

The M has poo hardpoints. I'd only buy it if it somehow worked out saving you money on upgrades.

The K and VA are both solid, although the K tends to run hot making it hard to take advantage of the hardpoints. That being said I sold the VA and kept the K as a medium laser ac20 srm brawler.

Edited by Fuggles, 25 April 2014 - 10:27 AM.

[Orbit Rain]

The VA is an awesome missile boat fwiw.

[dragnier1]

Yes, the v and protector are very similar, probably best for direct fire support imo. The va and m can be used as missile boats, the 3rd energy hardpoint in m for tag if you want to. I'm currently using the k for brawling, 4 mlas, 2 srm4 and ac10.

[Rubidiy]

K or M. Same thing, but M is more expensive.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e06f45acdc26c5

and this is the best lrm-boat Orion imho.
ON1-V

[Flaming oblivion]

I went 1v the k and va sold the k and va , I'd still recommend a va only if u like missiles a lot though

[Tereva]

Rubidiy, on 25 April 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

and this is the best lrm-boat Orion imho.
ON1-V

Even when the ON1-VA has 4 launchers ? (instead of 3 for the ON1-V) ? Why ?

[Modo44]

The maximum salvo is 50 missiles. The VA can also do it -- with a tighter spread, but higher alpha heat (70 vs 63). The difference is minor. The VA's fun uses begin when you consider smaller launchers combined with heavy energy weapons/ACs. For example: 4xLRM5, 4xSSRM2, 4xSRM6.

Edited by Modo44, 25 April 2014 - 01:01 PM.

[Flaming oblivion]

Rubidiy, on 25 April 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

K or M. Same thing, but M is more expensive.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e06f45acdc26c5

and this is the best lrm-boat Orion imho.
ON1-V

If some1 gets under your minimum range in that , your done.

[Lucky Noob]

VA with 4 SRM 6 in chainfire is an Beast

[Xoxim SC]

I'm personally using the V and it's okay.. I'm new to this whole missile boating thing, and it's boring as shit, don't understand why people enjoy it. Overall though, it's a solid mech with decent hard points. I'll likely replace my LRM15s with SRM6s at some point and make a more diverse build which is what I'm used to.

Ooops, thought the OP said he had a K, not a V. Definitely get a K o_O

Edited by Todd Lightbringer, 25 April 2014 - 02:43 PM.

[Angels Bane]

i run my k at 83.3 kph with a 50 point alpha. its a blooming steamroller. omg. do i dare post this? there arent any nerf-holes looking r there? O.o

[Sigilum Sanctum]

I run my V with 3 SRM6s 2 MLs and an LB10XAC. Its a fun litle thing :3

Im thinking of getting the K myself, OP, considering my V and Protecter are all basic'd out.

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 25 April 2014 - 02:33 PM.

[senaiboy]

VA if you like builds that Modo44 suggested above (I love mine with PPC+SSRMs).

K if you like brawlers, however the only viable build I managed is 4MLs+AC20 (but it's my highest K:D variant so far due to the high alpha)

[Lyoto Machida]

I went with the K, V and VA. Was gonna buy the Protector on sale but it seemed too much like the other variants.

Rubidiy, on 25 April 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

K or M. Same thing, but M is more expensive.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e06f45acdc26c5

and this is the best lrm-boat Orion imho.
ON1-V

This guy knows whats up. Me and a unitmate ran Vs with LRMs (15/20/15) one night. The other two Kuritans in Alpha lance were not in our group...just a coincidence:



I think the V might be even better than the VA at LRMing due to less heat.

VA for SRMs or SSRMS with PPC.

[Satan n stuff]

Fuggles, on 25 April 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

The M has poo hardpoints. I'd only buy it if it somehow worked out saving you money on upgrades.

The K and VA are both solid, although the K tends to run hot making it hard to take advantage of the hardpoints. That being said I sold the VA and kept the K as a medium laser ac20 srm brawler.

The M makes a great sniper, but it isn't all that good for anything else.

[IraqiWalker]

Basically, follow the Billy Mays approach:

Here are my LRMs that are raining down on you right now, BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! I also have an AC20 for you good sir, right in the face, and you ma'm are about to get 2 Large Lasers right in the torso. More to come if you stick with us for the next 5 minutes, with discounts on death destruction, and a special bonus of MAYHEM!

A well rounded mech will not excel at any one role, but it will do ALL of them, and is a terrifying monster to behold.

Here are some builds you might like:

Note1: Consult my guide on mech building, it has several tips that can help you in the long run. I would also appreciate some feedback to help make it more new-player friendly.

Orions

Spoiler

ON1-K 1xAC20 2xLL 2xSRM6
Simple brawling build that can even engage enemies from range. It's not the best, but it's basically an atlas that is lighter

ON1-M 2xLRM15 1xLB-10X 2xML
Should be ON1-Mays, this is the Billy Mays mech. Well, one of them. You rain LRMs on people until they die or get close to being dead, then when you get close to them, or they foolishly do that, you hit them with the lasers, and use the LBX to surgically remove/destroy anything that has no armor on it.

Note: The LB-10X deals the same damage as an AC10, but in a buckshot pattern, so it will scatter a bit, however, unlike the AC10 it has an increased chance of scoring critical hits on body parts that have no armor over them, and basically sandblasting the internals into dust. It's extremely lethal late game.

ON1-VA 2xLRM15 2xLRM10 2xML 1xAC5

Just .... Just fire missiles until they stop moving. I put an AC5 in there just in case you want one. You can easily drop it, get a bigger engine, more heatsinks and more missiles. If built as a purely LRM BOAT it can be an absolute monster, you can drop the two internal heatsinks for two more tons of ammo if you want. The LRM build rivals that of the BLR-1S, one of the best LRM boats in the game, and the BLR-1S is an assault, this thing is a heavy that can dish just as much damage, and carry just as much dakka.

If you go for the dedicated LRM boat, you'll probably still have missiles left to fire even after every enemy mech is a twitching hunk of scrap.

EDIT: For time saving purposes I just copied this from a previous post I made, and removed the unnecessary parts.

[Tereva]

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ON1-VA 2xLRM15 2xLRM10 2xML 1xAC5

No Artemis on a missile boat ? Isn't it a must have in this case ?

[Modo44]

It was done to save weight for the cannon. You can go without Artemis if you prefer a spray and pray approach. That build's big mistake is the engine. The Orion is already a barn with a 300 rated engine