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#1761 Tesunie

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 08:29 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 23 May 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

If need be, we can just jump into an empty room on the NGNG TS server.


We could... I don't know their server information though and any stranger could jump in...

#1762 Rhaythe

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:06 AM

View PostTesunie, on 23 May 2016 - 08:29 AM, said:


We could... I don't know their server information though and any stranger could jump in...

Risk we run, yeah, but in a pinch.

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 09:55 AM

Stock mech is Best mech.

Lt. Kataren (you know, my stock only account) in a public match drop.

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Lets just say, it was a good match to be me... (Results shown are not typical.)

#1764 Rhaythe

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 06:08 AM

Hell, at this point, I'd be all over this game again if it just featured a 3025 mode. Sure, full mechlab whatever. If we can't have stock, at least give us eras. Game is perfectly viable in both forms, and the 3025 Mechlab would scratch the public itch for customization/mix-maxing.

But, it's BattleTech, so people must be clanners. So no 3025.

When is HBS's game supposed to be done...?

#1765 Jaeger Gonzo

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 05:40 AM

HBS game would even have MP online?
Last time I remember they did not hit that support level.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 13 June 2016 - 05:40 AM.


#1766 Ovion

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 06:57 AM

View PostJaeger Gonzo, on 13 June 2016 - 05:40 AM, said:

HBS game would even have MP online?
Last time I remember they did not hit that support level.
They got everything.

#1767 Jaeger Gonzo

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 08:18 AM

View PostOvion, on 13 June 2016 - 06:57 AM, said:

They got everything.

good to hear

They rules set are any more clear now?
I did not supported them cause in a time that was really foggy, more they advertised graphics then game itself. It was like everything that I have found about subject was "Modern turn base" and this, is not saying me much and under "modern" i suspected dumbed down mechanics to the modern teenager dumb level.

#1768 Sergey Kosinskiy

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 12:59 AM

View PostJaeger Gonzo, on 13 June 2016 - 08:18 AM, said:

good to hear

They rules set are any more clear now?
I did not supported them cause in a time that was really foggy, more they advertised graphics then game itself. It was like everything that I have found about subject was "Modern turn base" and this, is not saying me much and under "modern" i suspected dumbed down mechanics to the modern teenager dumb level.


it will be sorta like this.


From what i know they did change iniciative. But damage, armour and other stuff is from TT.
Here they talk about mellee

Edited by Sergey Kosinskiy, 14 June 2016 - 01:01 AM.


#1769 Jaeger Gonzo

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:18 PM

Looks like we are going to get Stock&Quirk Off Buttons.
What you guys think about lobbing some more for TT ammo x2 and BT weapon basic stats?

#1770 Rhaythe

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:55 AM

View PostJaeger Gonzo, on 17 June 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

Looks like we are going to get Stock&Quirk Off Buttons.
What you guys think about lobbing some more for TT ammo x2 and BT weapon basic stats?

I think we should be grateful for what we get and do our best to make the Stock Community a thing again. There are a *lot* of players we need to get back in here.

#1771 SilentScreamer

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 06:39 AM

View PostJaeger Gonzo, on 17 June 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

Looks like we are going to get Stock&Quirk Off Buttons.


Hurray for Stock! Honestly, I am surprised there will be a setting for Quirks on/off. Now my only pipe drean is getting c-bills/xp in stock matches.

I did complete basic skills in a stock Warhammer through Quickplay this week. 16 matches, 7 wins /9 losses, 12 kills /10 deaths, and average damage per match was 214. Best match was 2 kills and 538 damage on Canyon Network.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 10:11 AM

View PostSilentScreamer, on 18 June 2016 - 06:39 AM, said:

Hurray for Stock! Honestly, I am surprised there will be a setting for Quirks on/off. Now my only pipe drean is getting c-bills/xp in stock matches.

There would be no point in Stock button at all if quirks would be on.

View PostRhaythe, on 18 June 2016 - 05:55 AM, said:

I think we should be grateful for what we get and do our best to make the Stock Community a thing again. There are a *lot* of players we need to get back in here.

Yeah sure, but we should let know what is best for Stock Mode.
More then that, if we want Public Stock Mode to ever come true I think that introduction to wider public needs to be best as possible. So people would see on they own eyes how Stock Mode is fun to play, but for best effect we need best balance. And that`s mean go back to BT source.
So all meks with one ton ammo like Shadow Hawk, Wolvie etc. would not be screwed up just be cause of ammo.
On the weapon BT stats note. We all know that AC20 in Stock is too strong and ML too weak. That is a case be cause they changed stats to fight back mechlab. AC20 and ML are the biggest offenders that do bad to overall balance, but PPC is little too cool, SRMs do little to much damage. We don`t have mechlab to fight in Stock and this changes actually do bad to balance in Stock, just like quirks stats alternation are unnecessary. On top of that, different xml weapon stat doc would give them more freedom to alter weapon stats as they want to for Full Custom without watching back and screw Stock game play by accident.

I believe that if Stock game play prove itself in Privet by all means have a chance to come to public quene. If enough people want it, they will have no option then do it. I think even Russ said something like this one time.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 18 June 2016 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 11:31 AM

I hope they will add "Skills On/Off" and "Modules On/Off" options too.
With those features even beginner and fresh owner of a mech can have a fair fight.
It will be easier to use a Battle Value system.

It will also allow to create a relevant Leaderboard per mech variant.
Everybody will have the same difficulties and challenge to use his mount.

Edited by Doc Shmol, 18 June 2016 - 11:32 AM.


#1774 Rhaythe

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Posted 19 June 2016 - 01:17 PM

View PostJaeger Gonzo, on 18 June 2016 - 10:11 AM, said:

More then that, if we want Public Stock Mode to ever come true I think that introduction to wider public needs to be best as possible.

I agree with you completely. But we'll never get a public stock mode if we don't rebuild the stock community. Right now it's completely decimated. We need to get the word around to try and get some of the old-timers back in this, then we can think about where to take it from there.

Honestly, I just wanna play stock MWO again. If we can at least get that, this whole thing is a win.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 06:44 AM

Yey!!! So many new classic Meks to play. Marauder, Warhammer, Archer, Rifleman and Pixi and all that in they proper sizes.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:09 AM

Would be greath. But i cant play in our old time, maybe we can change time?

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 12:02 PM

Yeah, we need more euro friendly time.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 23 June 2016 - 12:03 PM.


#1778 AWOL 01

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 04:48 AM

Do you guys ever do stock Clan mech battles? Or is this basically just for 3025-era IS mechs?

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 07:56 AM

View PostAWOL 01, on 07 July 2016 - 04:48 AM, said:

Do you guys ever do stock Clan mech battles? Or is this basically just for 3025-era IS mechs?

We've done 3050 stock IS vs stock Clan before, but it's a rare thing. Clan vs Clan was never done, if I recall correctly. Was never really an interest with the group, given most people are more interested in the 3025 timeline.

If you're interested, this was recorded back when the Clans were initially released:


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 08:07 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 07 July 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

We've done 3050 stock IS vs stock Clan before, but it's a rare thing. Clan vs Clan was never done, if I recall correctly. Was never really an interest with the group, given most people are more interested in the 3025 timeline.

If you're interested, this was recorded back when the Clans were initially released:


Do you know how that went? Was it pretty evenly matched or did one side have an advantage?

I'm more interested in IS vs IS, I've just been wondering about how the game is balanced overall and if you guys have experimented at all with armor values, alpha limits, etc. and how they affect TTK.

(I'll watch the video when I'm on break)

Edited by AWOL 01, 07 July 2016 - 08:10 AM.






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