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[Bront]

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

3/3/3/3 - restriction - inability to make a proper MM that balances teams without this - fail.

Not only is it a start, but they can easily start tweaking this as they go. I'm hoping they expand it to 2-4 of each class, offering some flexability and ability to clear out the larger queues faster.

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

One group per team - restriction - inability to balance groups amount in MM - fail

Annoying, but they've already talked about a 2-10 man mode they're working on.

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

No exp/c-bills in private matches - inability to prevent mythical exploits without killing fun for normal players - fail.

If you allow EXP/CBills in private matches, it will be abused.

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

No option to change amount of players in free private matches - epic moneygrab - fail.

This is how F2P games make money. Simply having to have Premium Time running isn't that big of a deal. If they make it something separate you have to buy, that's worse.

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

No social system whatsoever to find people for your private matches without 3rd party software - utter fail.

That is a problem, admittedly.

But it's not all doom and gloom.

[DarthPeanut]

Glad to see the launch module, hope it balances match tonnage a little better with the new 3/3/3/3 rule.

Cockpit glass toggling in the config! I am excited to see this option!

[Raggedyman]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 29 April 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

It's such a bare bones system right now. The social tools are completely absent.

Hopefully (very hopefully) this will come along in a future update. So far the PGI approach appears to be incremental (possibly over cautious) updates, so once they know the basics work there should be an upgrade in the works. May be a couple of weeks/months away but I can't imagine it will never be in there.

[MischiefSC]

Patching now. Fingers crossed. Feeling... hopeful. Activated my banked premium time, want to come into this new patch and improvements to matchmaking/SRM hit detection, etc. with a positive attitude.

Now to go shoot all of you in the face. Smile!

[627]

I'd like to have a bar graph or apercentage readout which class is the most used/unused so you could tell with wich class you have the longest or shortest wait time...

[Iqfish]

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:30 AM, said:

Oh yeah, and there are hundreds of volunteers to stand still and do nothing already lining up. Get real. 1 guy farms, 23 guys get crap. When another one of those 24 wants to farm its only he who gets anything. Overall, c-bill/exp gain speed is same as if they'd just play normally, thus farming this way is useless. It'll be much easier to farm in 3/3/3/3 by taking 3 meta assaults + meta 3D and stomping 'casual' 4-man plus their pugs on the other team.

Oh I could easily organize 10 or more people in my unit and we make a farmparty, everyone would have a round of pure farming

Your concept does NOT work and would be exploited.

[AlmightyAeng]

Raggedyman, on 29 April 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Okay then, explain how you can have totally player defined private matches AND rewards in private matches WITHOUT the ability to exploit the situation.

Go on, I would love to hear it.

Considering that it would 1) tank their ELO/stats doing so and 2) since there's no kind of persistent economy in this game, can you tell me why the hell it would even matter if someone wasted their time doing so?

[ramp4ge]

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

By disabling achievements and player/mech stats such as W/L and KDR while still retaining the ability to earn c-bills and master your mechs.

I haven't played many games that allow exp/currency gain in "arranged matches". World of Tanks doesn't allow currency/exp gain in training battles, hell, it even charges you for ammo and consumables. NavyFIELD didn't allow you to gain exp/currency in games in areas other than the official battle areas.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that most games won't let you exploit blowing your multi-boxed account up over and over again to farm currency..

I do agree that a social system is required. Even a basic one.

Edited by ramp4ge, 29 April 2014 - 11:36 AM.

[Trevor Belmont]

So when I solo dropped, I was asked Public or Private, but I never got to choose if I wanted Assault, Conquest or Skirmish.

[PhoenixFire55]

Bront, on 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

Not only is it a start, but they can easily start tweaking this as they go. I'm hoping they expand it to 2-4 of each class, offering some flexability and ability to clear out the larger queues faster.

Its not a start its a dead end. Lack of diversity means lack of tactical options etc. which in turn means lack of fun.

Bront, on 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

Annoying, but they've already talked about a 2-10 man mode they're working on.

They have said nothing, none, zero about working on 2-10 man group options. They said they 'might' look into it. Soon^TM.

Bront, on 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

If you allow EXP/CBills in private matches, it will be abused.

No, read my reply above.

Bront, on 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

This is how F2P games make money. Simply having to have Premium Time running isn't that big of a deal. If they make it something separate you have to buy, that's worse.

Name me any other F2P or P2W or whatever online game that doesn't allow you to only play with people you want for free.

Bront, on 29 April 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

That is a problem, admittedly.

A problem that is here for 2 years with no effort whatsoever to fix it.

[Bront]

On a more constructive criticism point, why can't we get some of these toggles in the graphics gui? We shouldn't have to use the user.cfg to tweak the game.

[MischiefSC]

HOLY SHIT.

I.... I can turn film grain off?

This raises a serious new problem -

How am I going to pilot my mech effectively with this HUGE [Smile]?

THANK YOU!!!!!

It's.... it's all SO PRETTY. I can make it all so pretty!

Seriously. BEST. DAY. EVER!

Edited by Egomane, 29 April 2014 - 11:54 AM.
There are civilized ways to show you are lucky, please use them!

[Raggedyman]

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:30 AM, said:

Oh yeah, and there are hundreds of volunteers to stand still and do nothing already lining up. Get real. 1 guy farms, 23 guys get crap. When another one of those 24 wants to farm its only he who gets anything.

except if you both have premium you can set up a 1 V 1 match, so I'll set up a mouse macro to put me into any game you want whilst I head out for the evening/watch a movie/go to sleep and you farm me to your hearts content. And I'll even do it for the low, low price of $1 a time, so you can cover my premium time and I'll make a profit. I'm not losing anything from it and It'll give me $1 / 6500 MC a month.

And don't say "will never happen", as Real Money Trading / Gold Farming (which this is basically what it would be) happens in every game when their is any chance of something like this going on.

[PhoenixFire55]

Iqfish, on 29 April 2014 - 11:34 AM, said:

Oh I could easily organize 10 or more people in my unit and we make a farmparty, everyone would have a round of pure farming

Your concept does NOT work and would be exploited.

If you and your friends are so cool that they'd rather do nothing for 23/24 of their playtime in MWO to gain exp/c-bills at the SAME rate as they'd get them by just playing ... well. Best of luck, exploit it all you want.

[LauLiao]

So... about the ridiculous queue times we saw on the Public test server that you ASSURED us was strictly because of the limited population? Going on 6 minutes searching now. Did you seriously make this game so that I have to guess what weight class is most needed just to get a game? So much for piloting the mechs you want.

[TyrEol]

Is it intetional that you now can't select a game type when you queue solo for a public match?? I didn't see that in the patch notes

[Biaxialrain]

Hi, first post.

I'm prompted to post based on this patch.

Private matches are exclusionary, this will hurt your game.

This will lower your player base due to increased wait/matchmaking times and fewer players available for public/casual matches.

Your player base is one of your strengths.

I just tried to play and I don't have a choice of assault, conquest or skirmish anymore and after 5 minutes of searching I gave up.

I play Stalkers and they aren't suited for Conquest, I don't like Conquest because it turns into Skirmish anyway, now will I be punished for dropping out of a Conquest match if that's what I am placed in?

This is terrible.

Edited by Biaxialrain, 29 April 2014 - 11:46 AM.

[Darian DelFord]

3 Attempts to find a public match.... 3 failures... on to number 4


Edit: On to number 5

Edited by Darian DelFord, 29 April 2014 - 11:42 AM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

MischiefSC, on 29 April 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

HOLY SHIT. I.... I can turn film grain off? This raises a serious new problem - How am I going to pilot my mech effectively with this HUGE [SMILE]? THANK YOU!!!!! It's.... it's all SO PRETTY. I can make it all so pretty! Seriously. BEST. DAY. EVER!

Quoted, because it should be.

Edited by Egomane, 29 April 2014 - 11:55 AM.
Quote cleaned up

[Bobdolemite]

I have been waiting for something like this for a LONG time. I have since moved on to other games in the interim while I waited, going to patch this and get back into some games. If I like what I see I will be purchasing some mechbays as a thank you to myself and PGI (well more myself, ive been wanting a couple mechs, the phoenix models I missed... the new light etc.)

Haven't played yet, but if launch module and srm's are fixed you will have earned back a player who left. Cant wait, see you in game.