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[PhoenixFire55]

Kyle Reece, on 29 April 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

Devil's advocate. What impact does someone exploiting private matches have on you, me, or anyone else not involved in the matches?

They aren't farming/exploiting/griefing in OUR matches.

[Gasoline]

So...

we got a patch that gave us:

• 3/3/3/3
  
• group limit to one per side in public queue
  
• better matchmaking
  
• disable function for cockpit glass and film grain
  
• HSR fix

(irony on) I consider this a success. PGI at it's best. (irony off)

At least the best of this patch works (hopefully... haven't tested yet). I still think 3/3/3/3 is a dead horse in regards to community warfare (which we still have no idea of... ) and that drop weight matching would have been way better. The group players and solo players that prefer playing alongside larger groups (which I am) are still on the receiving end. Private matches should at least be compensated for expenses (consumables). Dunno if the constant limiting in player decisions is a good way to go.

[Grimmrog]

PhoenixFire55, on 29 April 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

1.5 years of waiting for private matches only to get this ...

3/3/3/3 - restriction - inability to make a proper MM that balances teams without this - fail.
One group per team - restriction - inability to balance groups amount in MM - fail
No exp/c-bills in private matches - inability to prevent mythical exploits without killing fun for normal players - fail.
No option to change amount of players in free private matches - epic moneygrab - fail.
No social system whatsoever to find people for your private matches without 3rd party software - utter fail.

Your PUGwarrior online is bad PGI, nobody wants to play it. Trying to squeeze money out of people who are sick of playing with random individuals instead of their team in a team-based game will only lead to people spedning less and less. Its about time you realized that people are already leaving your game in thousands, good hardcore MW fans who'd stayed here long and supported the game if it was fun.

Hmm if 84% of people were queueing solo, then What is your definition of the term "nobody"

[Kirtanus]

nice content!

[BatduckTW]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 29 April 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

Please disable Caps Lock and take a moment to read this Announcement: http://mwomercs.com/...ng-30-apr-2014/

Sorry I was eating gummy bears.
TY for the reply. I had only scrolled down far enough to find the patch notes for the current patch.

[Agent Mohsen]

Is there a reason i am now forced to play conquest mode?

I seem to lose more and more choices as a patch like this prevents me from playing what I truly enjoy, Assault and Skirmish.

[PhoenixFire55]

Grimmrog, on 29 April 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

Hmm if 84% of people were queueing solo, then What is your definition of the term "nobody"

If 84% of people were queueing solo we currently wouldn't be having the 'fail to find match' issue in epic proportions in public queue to begin with.

[Randalf Yorgen]

Creovex, on 29 April 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

Interesting thought, but then again it forces private only players back into the public queues at some point to get more c-bills. Of course, you could always buy Cbills now with MC (I say that ONLY to poke the bear).

But lets be realistic, most private server FPS games cost you, the player, money to host. Here all you need is a premium in. So who is getting the cheaper part of the deal?? You are talking to someone who used to drop $500 a month support a serious gaming group (not to be named)... as much as you THINK you deserve this system, it does cost something and take away from the public queue, so you just MAY have to repay that somehow. Your choice, public queue Cbills or MC...

and just how do you get premium time? Game money? (C-Bills).... no, Ask nicely..... no, you pay real money (MC) to get that premium time. Now in those other games you still get something for your effort, mostly because those other games actually have a clue and support multiplayer options with Lobbies, World Chat, Guilds/Clans/Units or it doesn't cost you more than it does to host the match, or they let you take it completely off their servers and you host it yourself.

Just grabbing a game title out there, does BF4 make you pay for consumables (if it has them, I don't know as I don't play console) when you are in a private match? I would be greatly surprised if it did.

Now what I THINK I deserve is a fair shake, not special treatment. I would be happy if PGI made it so that all consumables cost MC and that the C-Bill was nerfed into history. OR make it so that if you wanted to do more than 20 drops a week you needed to pay up with some MC as well. Crazy? not really, as it is now the teams are being made to carry the cost for everyone playing MWO. not cool, not fair, and unacceptable in my books. PGI is treating the player who wants to group with 4 or more friends like a second class citizen, like a wife they have lost interest in. No one sticks around for that kind of treatment, someone always comes along who treats them better and shows them a little respect. PGI just can't see that the china has already been spirited out of the hutch or that the closet has a lot more room in it because there are less clothes in it. PGI's house is about to get a lot more empty, I just hope they can keep the mortgage payments up with one less income in the house.

[Damocles69]

Patch is broken to all hell

Do you even test bro?

I'm beginning to think that you all are actual chimpanzees banging on keyboards

[C4-Wolfy36]

Agent Mohsen, on 30 April 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

Is there a reason i am now forced to play conquest mode?

I seem to lose more and more choices as a patch like this prevents me from playing what I truly enjoy, Assault and Skirmish.

I can only say I truly feel Nikolai's pain in trying to explain things to people.

Let me explain this slowly....... Agent....... Look at the post directly above your post......click on the link....... Nikolai explained this well.......last night......take the time to look up at the post by HurtThem........directly above your post.....click on link.....click on link......

IT'S A SAD DAY WHEN I HAVE TO DEFEND PGI !!!! (oops, caps lock got hit again)

[Ngamok]

AlexEss, on 29 April 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

Unless you know... You either know exactly who you want to face and don´t really care to leave it up to fate or you might not have a set agenda but like to keep things very private... Like i don´t know a corp having a practise or tryouts.

Private matches are a very good tool added to this game, no matter how you look at it.

Aces High had over 200 people on their TS last night doing Private Matches.

[Ngamok]

Roland, on 29 April 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

You think someone's gonna... err... 24-box mechwarrior online to farm fairly trivial amounts of c-bills?

That's kind of ridiculous dude.

You'd be surprised what people will do to bypass a grind system.

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 29 April 2014 - 05:36 PM, said:

As to the Biebs: While our hearts go out to his family and friends. Our nation's foreign and customer service policies clearly indicate: You break it, you buy it. There will be no refunds or returns on damaged pop idols.

Good thing he is Canadian so we can always just kick him out.

[SilentScreamer]

I patched and played several matches yesterday and decided to post my thoughts.
The group size varied between 2, 3 and 4.
I spent most matches in a shadowhawk, but also ran jager, spider and firestarter.
No more then 2 of our group were in the same weight class on a drop.
We played between 7pm and 9 pm EST.

- Wait times in match maker were 30 seconds to 1 minutes, with none over 2 minutes. Adding a 4th put us at the longer end.
- Although 3-3-3-3 was not working the mech composition on the teams seemed more balanced; a few games did come up with 4-5 of a weight class instead of 3. Some matches still ended in stomp/landslide, but player skill and teamwork play a role in that.
- The Shadowhawk I used has 2 SRM2 Launchers, I did not notice any recurring hit registration problems.
- I had no disconnects; but still saw several other players suffering. It will be good if planned features allow reconnects to games in progress.
- I did notice the LAG-spike at the final kill in matches has become more pronounced.
- I do hope the bug preventing game mode selection can be fixed soon. I play all game types but some of my lancemates have strong preferences.

Overall, this patch seems to have less change to gameplay then the last 2 patches dealing with LRMs. I am looking forward to Community Warfare, so I hope the new matchmaker was sucessful in bringing us a step closer. Thanks to the programers for the hard work!

Edited by SilentScreamer, 30 April 2014 - 06:16 AM.

[BARBAR0SSA]

James Griffin, on 29 April 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:

6 matches tonight, 6 stomps, I think I'm 3 and 3. I'm not really seeing a change. Scratch that, this has been one of my worst nights ever, 1 kill and the losses have been pretty bad. Best I've seen was a 12-6 win, but have been 12-1to3, I thought launch module was supposed to stop mega stomps. We'll see how it goes in the morning though, this is just my thoughts on the night, and nights are always inconstant for me.

3/3/3/3 needs to be turned on, you're playing in the old MM mode right now.

[Opus]

Private matches are a WIN !!!!


as for the rest of the issues, pffftttt it is igp/pgi what did you expect

[Novakaine]

Normally I tend to not find anything good in the latest series of patches.
However aside from the premium time thing I love the lobby room now.
Had a mega-blast last night just playing with my buddies.
Even had a few who swore they'd never play mwo again, reloading the game.
So kudo's PGI ya nailed it this time.
And best of all I only have to pug if feel the need for some c-bills or some xp for a new mech.
Which most of the time I don't cause I'm freakin rich!
So thanks PGI for the candy crushing git pug free lobby.
I really hate pugs.

[MayGay]

shad0w4life, on 30 April 2014 - 06:25 AM, said:

3/3/3/3 needs to be turned on, you're playing in the old MM mode right now.

no that will not prevent stomps, weight classes were pretty even and I was running a pretty potent Mara...err Orion.
In fact, being the guy who avoids using meta, and uses 'mechs like Dragons, BlackJacks, and Awesomes, effectively, it will likely hurt me in that we'll see an increase in the higher end of each weight class, also I don't like the cookie cutter every match the same 3/3/3/3 boringness, but that is just me, and I still say LRMs need to be nerfed more, lower their arc so cover is effective

[Corbon Zackery]

So the hot fix is going to happen when?

I would hope that its before you fire the development staff. Not after.

I would like to play assault at some point. All I get is power game skirmishes and Conquest games were everyone kills the other team well before 750 resources are collected.


This has been a huge wonder bread blunder. I would hope the computer video game magazines give you a proper kick in the tushie. So you understand how important a community is to your game.

Without a community there is no MechWarrior Online. Yet you constantly find was to kick your own free to play community to the curb. With sloppy patch work and broken promises.

All you can say is "Were sorry!"

PGI has become the free to play computer scam arties of the century. Give us your money and will give you crap in return.

A faulty bugged game.

[Appogee]

Just played in a match vs 8 Assaults on the enemy team.

We had 2.

3+3+3+3 can't come fast enough.

[DarthPeanut]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 29 April 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

This is a fairly new feature. Rather than force players to wait for a visual implementation of it in the UI and options, we have enabled the ability to modify this immediately from the config if it is detrimental to your style of play.

I am very happy with being able to change the options for cockpit glass and grain. Thank you for allowing us to make the user config changes to use these options while the setting menu updated for them is still in process.

SOOOO much better visuals. I played a good number of matches in the evening yesterday and it makes a nice difference.

I was pretty happy about the patch for this reason solely. Although 3/3/3/3 did not quite work as planned obviously, glad you all are so quickly responding in this thread and working on it.

Edited by DarthPeanut, 30 April 2014 - 08:33 AM.