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[Bulletsponge0]

Is the ECM on Spiders somehow more powerful than ECM's in other mechs?

I run BAP and Artemis with streaks and am able to get locks on all ECM mechs except Spiders...even when they are running in a straight line directly at me. Is there something about the Spider that makes the ECM that much more effective?

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 02 May 2014 - 04:06 PM.

[Thorqemada]

If its 2 ECM Mechs your BAP will not work which means you neither have Artemis nor a Lock On.

BAP >= ECM cancels ECM
ECM > BAP cancles BAP

Edited by Thorqemada, 02 May 2014 - 02:02 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Thorqemada, on 02 May 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

If its 2 ECM Mechs your BAP will not work which means you neither have Artemis nor a Lock On.

BAP >= ECM cancels ECM
ECM > BAP cancles BAP

nope...one on one...me v ecm spider...could not get a lock.....

[Mcgral18]

Bulletsponge0, on 02 May 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

nope...one on one...me v ecm spider...could not get a lock.....

150M on BAP, was he outside of that circle?

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

ECM stacks, so perhaps there was another ECM mech nearby. Running with 3 Spider 5D's all close to each other makes bap equipped Streak mechs useless. Also when using the terrain to your advantage (as a Spider pilot) it is very easy to lose Streak locks because effective BAP is only 150m.

Also I don't know if it's a bug or Working As Intended ™, but stacked ECM is more powerful than stacked BAP. For example 4 ECM mechs going against 4 BAP equipped mechs - 4 BAPs do not negate 4 ECMs. Something to do with BAP negating only one ECM, and perhaps several BAPs are negating same ECM.

[Bulletsponge0]

he was 98m away...and there were no other mechs alive in the match but him

[Thorqemada]

You were damaged and your BAP damaged and therefore inactive?

Edited by Thorqemada, 02 May 2014 - 03:18 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Thorqemada, on 02 May 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

You were damaged and your BAP damaged and therefore inactive?

nope...not disabled....simply couldn't get lock...even after having the reticule centered on him for a ridiculous amount of time

[Thorqemada]

Your Lock On stopped in the yellow stage?

That would be a bug that occurs now and then not only with Spiders - have not played my Streak-Cent a while so i cant say if it is better or worse these days.

Did you still have some Streak-Ammo?

[Bulletsponge0]

Thorqemada, on 02 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Your Lock On stopped in the yellow stage?

That would be a bug that occurs now and then not only with Spiders - have not played my Streak-Cent a while so i cant say if it is better or worse these days.

Did you still have some Streak-Ammo?

yeah...thats exactly what happened....still had tons of ammo, but the lock stopped just short of full lock

[Deathlike]

Just put Artemis on the mech. See if that helps any (Streaks benefit from the lockon speedup bonus, yet not consume tonnage like SRMs and LRMs).

[Flaming oblivion]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 02 May 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

Nope, ECM has the same hard values on all Mechs which can equip it. I'll let other players discuss how they use their spider ECMs to be more effective in combat

Wish you'd actually balance ecm , There's a reason most skilled players will laugh at you or tell you to l2p if you run a ecm mech without ecm, Theres also a reason the side with ecm as a general rule has a much better chance of winning, if they have more then 1 ecm and you have none. Yeah tell everyone where you are and disconnect save everyone some time.

[Bulletsponge0]

Deathlike, on 02 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Just put Artemis on the mech. See if that helps any (Streaks benefit from the lockon speedup bonus, yet not consume tonnage like SRMs and LRMs).

got artemis and bap on it

[Deathlike]

Well, there's no indicator that BAP was disabled on the mech.

Also, the locking bug does happen occasionally... possibly related to lag and other weird things affecting it.

Edited by Deathlike, 02 May 2014 - 06:33 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Deathlike, on 02 May 2014 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well, there's no indicator that BAP was disabled on the mech.

Also, the locking bug does happen occasionally... possibly related to lag and other weird things affecting it.

starting to think thats what it might have been...just seems to happen almost exclusively with spiders for me