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[Blackfoot]

I droped in an assault battle solo in my Spider5D on forest colony yesterday. The pre-battle countdown timer hasn't even finished yet, so I decide to go put on a pot of coffee and the battle will be started when I get back to the computer.

I sit back down at a minute and a half into the battle and my team has already lost 4 mechs that fast. The enemy has lost none. So I go up to the dropship to maybe give my team some ECM and help engage the enemy. By the time I run up to the dropship we are down two more. So I figure OK, pull back to base and shut down and hide and when the enemy team finishes steamrolling these stupid PUGS I'm with and gets on our base, maybe I can pick one or two of them off with some surprise shots to the back. So I get on top of a building just behind the base and shut down and wait. It is not long before I am the only one left.

All of a sudden, some jackass on my team starts typing in chat, "spider powered down at such and such grid coordinates." and "OMG, he is worried about his K/D ratio, what a stupid dumbass", or "we could have won if you had helped us fight." Nevermind the fact that half my team got obliterated in the first two minutes of the match, or the time it takes to put on a pot of coffee. Nevermind that my little spider has no chance against 8-9 mechs that were left and the enemy team was going to win regardless of whether I took a few of them with me or not.

That being said, I have seen many pilots do that at the end of a match, run away and shut down on some far flung corner of the map. But my God, I was right by our base waiting for them to come to me, something I wish pugs would have the patience to do in a decent match up. Why the hell would I hide right next to where I KNOW they are gonna go?!

So I just wanted to say thanks. What a wonderful community this place is for a team oriented game.

P.S. Just incase anyone from PGI happens to stumble across this thread, please get rid of the K/D ratio, it is absolutely no indicator of how good or bad of a pilot you are. Especially if you're like me and have been playing since closed beta and have 40+ mechs all bought with cbills and mastered everything you have by fighting and dying in it as much as you can.

Edited by Blackfoot, 12 May 2014 - 04:40 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

If they tell the enemy your position (and if this position is true) you have to contact the support.

Although as i read it your team wasn't down and you didn't even fired a single shot - so without taking part in combat - and hiding could also be read as - harassment - or AFK farming.

last not least - if you want to have a coffee - hit play and run for the coffee - even when it means that when you return the game is still searching

[Blackfoot]

Karl Streiger, on 12 May 2014 - 04:41 AM, said:

If they tell the enemy your position (and if this position is true) you have to contact the support.

Although as i read it your team wasn't down and you didn't even fired a single shot - so without taking part in combat - and hiding could also be read as - harassment - or AFK farming.

last not least - if you want to have a coffee - hit play and run for the coffee - even when it means that when you return the game is still searching

Thats the thing. usually the battle hasnt even been found when I sit back down, let alone engaged with a lance down in such short a time. Its like my whole team just ran straight at all the red triangles one by one as fast as they could. Sadly, my memory is not what it once was and I don't remember the names of the guy who kept telling the enemy my grid.

Edited by Blackfoot, 12 May 2014 - 04:47 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

Blackfoot, on 12 May 2014 - 04:45 AM, said:

Thats the thing. usually the battle hasnt even been found when I sit back down, let alone engaged in such short a time. Its like my whole team just ran straight at all the red triangles one by one. Sadly, my memory is not what it once was and I don't remember the names of the guy who kept telling the enemy my grid.

It was Frozen City not Forest Colony right?

Because you said drop ship.
At Frozen City there are two start points (your team / enemy team) very close to each other.
When you start there (in the canyon) you have three options:

• move upwards - right into the enemy
  
• Take the long run into the enemys back
  
• Take the long run back to the "own" base and into the fight

Most take option one. And so with a wel placed artillerie strike you are dead in seconds (30secs in game . personal record for me - at this position)

[Blackfoot]

Im sorry yes, frozen city. not forest colony. I think that match was the fastest I've ever seen my team die in the last 2 years.

[poopenshire]

I think I was in that match with you.

That was one messed up match. I was in a lance that swept in behind the enemy, we all focus fired on a Jager. He took almost no damage at 200m. A few seconds later the entire team turned around CT cored us all in less than 1 minute. Either hit detection was WAY off or their LAG shields were fully charged. It was not a pretty battle.

[Ultimax]

Blackfoot, on 12 May 2014 - 04:34 AM, said:

I droped in an assault battle solo in my Spider5D on forest colony yesterday. The pre-battle countdown timer hasn't even finished yet, so I decide to go put on a pot of coffee and the battle will be started when I get back to the computer.

I sit back down at a minute and a half into the battle and my team has already lost 4 mechs that fast.

While it's true that PUGs can and will get themselves killed, you are a Spider.

Part of your role is being a scout, and in the early stage of the match your team relies on you to know where the enemy's positions are.

Most PUG matches only last about 8 minutes, so missing 1 minute and a half is actually a lot of a match.


I think that was a big error on your part.

Blackfoot, on 12 May 2014 - 04:34 AM, said:

So I figure OK, pull back to base and shut down and hide and when the enemy team finishes steamrolling these stupid PUGS I'm with and gets on our base, maybe I can pick one or two of them off with some surprise shots to the back. So I get on top of a building just behind the base and shut down and wait. It is not long before I am the only one left.

Wow.

So when your team is down and out, you run back to the base after missing the first minute and a half of the match so you can power down and then try and score some damage on your own?

What about those other 3 or 4 players? I guess just not being there at the start and then abandoning them without really doing much made sense?



While there certainly a lot of truly awful teams, I really don't have any sympathy for you.

As I said, most matches only take usually 8, maybe 10 minutes with the rare 15 min match - your pot of coffee can wait, or maybe you shouldn't be clicking the search button if you want to go make food or coffee.

[Kazma]

For your teammates it might've looked like you really did nothing and you did shut down to save your KD and of course they end up flaming at you.
I also don't recommend you to shut down in your spider at any time, instead keep shooting people in the face from long range

[SubXulu]

Kazma, on 12 May 2014 - 05:02 AM, said:

For your teammates it might've looked like you really did nothing and you did shut down to save your KD and of course they end up flaming at you.
I also don't recommend you to shut down in your spider at any time, instead keep shooting people in the face from long range

I agree, It doesn't just 'look' like he did nothing , he did NOTHING. As previously pointed out, you miss half the match, make one half hearted run forward, then retreat and power down and you are surprised that annoyed someone on your team??

The irony of this thread title is that it describes you, not the rest of your team.

Edited by SubXulu, 12 May 2014 - 05:19 AM.

[Egomane]

Closed!

There is a valid case of team treason on the OP, which si a reportable offense. But the OPs non-participation, and in the end it was nothing else from the viewpoint of his teammates, is also reportable.

If you hit the start button it can take any time between 1 second and several minutes to find you a match. If you press that button be prepared that the match starts immediatly and do not go afk.

I see two wrongs here! Both are better brought up with support instead of the rest of the community. That's why I'm closing this thread.