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[Durandal]

Banky, on 20 May 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Wow... SSRMs are definitely fubar'ed. Just tried running my Oxide on the testing grounds. It took 35 full 4xSSRM2 volleys to destroy the dummy Cicada on Terra Therma from the side/front. A full 3/4's of my ammo - on a stationary target... I used the rest of my ammo destroying the Commando next to it. 12 full volleys to kill it from behind. I had 24 missiles left out of 500 with those two targets taken down. Hopefully we get a hot fix for this soon.

Regular SRMs are just as bad, sadly. Took 500 SRMs into the testing ground and fired point blank...somehow took about 200 to kill the commando, wasn't able to kill the Cicada. Ran out of ammo as I got its core to red crit (though amused myself by charging into its CT and killing it like that). 500 SRMs...killed a Commando, and nothing else. Stick a fork in my Oxide...I'll be on my Ember/Jenner F, since apparently playing a light vs missile users is going to be profitable until the hotfix...

[Bishop Steiner]

that would require PGI acknowledging it's broke in the first place. Please, if possible, FRAP or Afterburner this stuff, then submit it on a support ticket to PGI, in fact, let's flood them with support tickets until they are as frustrated and pissed off about it as we are.

[Deathlike]

Vassago Rain, on 20 May 2014 - 05:38 PM, said:

I hear this is what it was like to login to today's patch.

TBH, many patches are worse than I expected... and PGI has trained me to expect less.

At this point, I have no confidence 3/3/3/3 will be implemented properly and I don't want it implemented anymore.

There's just too much fail here that I can't anticipate and REFUSE to expect more fail.

Edited by Deathlike, 20 May 2014 - 05:41 PM.

[N0MAD]

And you guys are paying these guys for this,,, double LOL,,,

[Devil Fox]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 May 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

Just got out of testing ground. Waiting for slow honking upload speed to youtube videos.

Testing condition, 1 Trebuchet Loup de Guerre kitted with 2x LRM10 (720 rnds, for 36 volleys) 2x SSRM2 (100 rds, 25 volleys) and 2 medium lasers. Tourmaline desert, all weapon systems fired independently...LRMs til ammo depleted, then SSRMs.

I made the exact same build... dropped one game, nearly every LRM hit because I maintained LoS, barely used streaks or ML (Tourmaline crystal climbed) and yet came out of the game with 93dmg after burning 3 tons of ammo and getting a kill... made no sense.

[Deathlike]

Apostal Sinclair, on 20 May 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

I made the exact same build... dropped one game, nearly every LRM hit because I maintained LoS, barely used streaks or ML (Tourmaline crystal climbed) and yet came out of the game with 93dmg after burning 3 tons of ammo and getting a kill... made no sense.

Dude, it's working as intended™.

People called for missile nerfs and got them, Amirite? Paul thought SRMs did too much damage too (in some fix, which probably is partially/fully implemented now). I guess it's balanced now!

[Vassago Rain]

Deathlike, on 20 May 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

TBH, many patches are worse than I expected... and PGI has trained me to expect less.

At this point, I have no confidence 3/3/3/3 will be implemented properly and I don't want it implemented anymore.

There's just too much fail here that I can't anticipate and REFUSE to expect more fail.

Well, heavy gear alpha is on the 5th, so that's another robot game. You could play hawken on steam right away, DFM is on the 29th, Kong is all about the guns of icarus, and we'll probably see street fighter ultra early next month.

[Davers]

H Seldon, on 20 May 2014 - 04:52 PM, said:

I guess back to AC/PPC

It's good to know that a third if the game's weapons are broke, but it won't effect the tournament in the least. :/

[Deathlike]

Vassago Rain, on 20 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Well, heavy gear alpha is on the 5th, so that's another robot game. You could play hawken on steam right away, DFM is on the 29th, Kong is all about the guns of icarus, and we'll probably see street fighter ultra early next month.

I'll look into them. Right now, today is a lost cause. Tomorrow will be the true exodus.

[wanderer]

Davers, on 20 May 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:

It's good to know that a third if the game's weapons are broke, but it won't effect the tournament in the least. :/

Actually it will. ACES was using a pair of Awesome-8R for LRM 60 platforms.

Cattra and company just had their strategy scrapped if they don't revert the patch or otherwise fix it before the next round.

[Davers]

wanderer, on 20 May 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

Actually it will. ACES was using a pair of Awesome-8R for LRM 60 platforms.

Cattra and company just had their strategy scrapped if they don't revert the patch or otherwise fix it before the next round.

I got to check out that video. It wasn't on the YouTube page this morning.

[wanderer]

Davers, on 20 May 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

I got to check out that video. It wasn't on the YouTube page this morning.

As you can see from the end result, losing missile support would likely take a good chunk of their core strategy with it. Their opponents more so- I think everything but the Shaqs had Streaks and/or LRMs on them. Of course, they're done....

[Thorqemada]

There was a time when i had a Centurion 9D with 2xML + 2xSRM6 and that did damage...i even dont expect my Wolverine 7K with a single ALRM20 to do much damage but that 2xASRM6 hit like soap bubbles too and it really is bad...Lights laugh at me and stop in front of me to try Headshots...the 2xML dont scare anyone anyway...

The Mech is to toy around and having one with some reasonable SRM Setup but even as toy its bad...

Edited by Thorqemada, 20 May 2014 - 06:22 PM.

[Jolly Llama]

What other games are similar to this one? I will gladly switch to a better Mech MMO.

[Harathan]

I hope everyone has sent a support ticket in about this. In the meantime, let's make sure everyone on the forum knows.

[lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol]

Funny. Looks like all of the CRYengine kiddies who bitched and moaned about how unfair LRM's were finally got their wish.

Vocal minority, people. Vocal minority. It's how it works.

Now PGI can compare the amount of rage people create now that missiles are broken to the amount of rage generated earlier about how OP'd LRM's were... weigh the two and decide which one is greater.

[Nyte Kitsune]

With Bishop, Tried my BLR-1s (2 LRM 10 + Artemis and 2 LRM 15+ Artemis, 3 Med, Tag, BAP, AMS) and burned all 10 tons of ammo, end result, 256 damage, LRMs totaly busted. Tried my SHD-2h (2 SRM 6 + Artemis, LB 10x, MG, BAP), Burned 2 tons of Ammo (LB 10x Critd before I could fire it) End result, 36 Damage. SRMs broken too.

Great Patch PGI, Whats next? All our mechs models to be replaced by Stick People armed with rubber bands? Though the rubber bands would likely be better than the LRMs and SRMs now.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Obsidian, now that's a name that I could drop $240 on and not even have to worry about it. They have a PROVEN track record and one of the most influential pedigrees in the industry.

[Mister Blastman]

OKAY. I just ran some tests in a private match. The SRMs in the Testing Grounds do not read from the same table values as in the real game.

That unto itself is a big problem...

BUT

(video incoming soon)

Test 1:
19 salvos of SRMs (2x SRM 6)

Test 2:
23 salvos of SRMs (2x SRM 6)


Interestingly in the Testing grounds it takes a consistent 28 salvos every time. Now, I chalk up Test 2 to not quite proper positioning--but you get the idea. There is something severely broken here when a year ago only 5 salvos did the job.

That means SRMs have been nerfed by 400%.

And people wonder why this game is broken?...

[WVAnonymous]

QQ all you want,

I already paid for my Masakari, and

no matter how little fun I have or

how much I hate dealing with it

I

will

play

this

game.