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Remember, Remember, 15Th Of November (Missiles Raining On My Head)


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#1 Thorqemada

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 09:14 PM

For you poor folks who have thought we would ever get working Missiles:


:)

#2 Blood Rose

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 03:00 AM

Nope, they got nerfed again this last patch. Also: where is your HUD OP?

#3 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 03:05 AM

View PostThorqemada, on 20 May 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

For you poor folks who have thought we would ever get working Missiles:


:D

Gotta love the classics.

#4 Grimmrog

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:44 AM

View PostBlood Rose, on 21 May 2014 - 03:00 AM, said:

Nope, they got nerfed again this last patch. Also: where is your HUD OP?

I would love to see the hud being off, except aim crosshair, all "HUD" elements should anways be on Cockpit monitors.

#5 oldradagast

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:45 AM

Don't worry - as of the 5/20 patch, they can rain on your head, but deal no damage.

#6 Agent of Change

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:46 AM

I think it's about time for another LRMgeddon. Those were fun. :D

#7 Karl Streiger

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:49 AM

Ah the Artemis BUG?

Do you know what was funny. At this time i hearded some Rookies - and i did not allowed them to use LRMs. We used ACs, PPCs, Laser and SRMs only. And it worked some times - if we were caught in the open because we made a mistake we died.
But in the end those rookies - would never come to the forum and complain about how bad missiles are.

Same with the splash damage bug - later.
If you use what is currently OP you will never become a good pilot.

Edited by Karl Streiger, 21 May 2014 - 05:50 AM.


#8 Marduk Moreau

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:50 AM

Broke out this Alt last night
Got a Pult with 2 LRM20. LRM 20 1 580 98 16.90% 00:02:55 43
98 hits... for 43 damage in ONE match. 98 Missiles hit... 0.43 damage per Missile?

#9 Bobzilla

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:51 AM

The song should be about not going in the water, and the design of caustic.

#10 Screech

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:00 AM

View PostMarduk Moreau, on 21 May 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

Broke out this Alt last night
Got a Pult with 2 LRM20. LRM 20 1 580 98 16.90% 00:02:55 43
98 hits... for 43 damage in ONE match. 98 Missiles hit... 0.43 damage per Missile?



All weapon stats are wrong regardless of the weapon, have been for a bit.

#11 Steve Pryde

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:04 AM

Why looked the LRMs in the past better than today? O.o

#12 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:07 AM

View PostScreech, on 21 May 2014 - 06:00 AM, said:



All weapon stats are wrong regardless of the weapon, have been for a bit.

I know some are but all? Do you have a link for this? :D

#13 Screech

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:24 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 21 May 2014 - 06:07 AM, said:

I know some are but all? Do you have a link for this? :D


No but I have accounts that have my doing 5.6 damage a hit with AC5 or have 3/4 of the matches played not even shown on the stat screen. It is much easier to notice the problems on newer accounts, but they all appear wrong in one aspect or another so I don't see how you can trust any of it.

#14 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:28 AM

View PostScreech, on 21 May 2014 - 06:24 AM, said:


No but I have accounts that have my doing 5.6 damage a hit with AC5 or have 3/4 of the matches played not even shown on the stat screen. It is much easier to notice the problems on newer accounts, but they all appear wrong in one aspect or another so I don't see how you can trust any of it.

5.6 damage was explained off as internals and ammo explosions IIRC, I haven't noticed any lost games, but would have to track that now that you mentioned it. :D ;)

#15 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:29 AM

View PostSteve Pryde, on 21 May 2014 - 06:04 AM, said:

Why looked the LRMs in the past better than today? O.o


They took away the Artemis flight pattern you see there. SRMs used to have an 'in-and-out' weaving pattern, too.

Like with so much in this game, they dumbed it down and downgraded the graphics.

#16 Onmyoudo

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:31 AM

View PostSteve Pryde, on 21 May 2014 - 06:04 AM, said:

Why looked the LRMs in the past better than today? O.o


The flight pattern was overpowered, so they changed it to spread more damage. The spiral curve they have in this video would mostly hit CT or even cockpits.

View PostGhost Badger, on 21 May 2014 - 06:29 AM, said:


They took away the Artemis flight pattern you see there. SRMs used to have an 'in-and-out' weaving pattern, too.

Like with so much in this game, they dumbed it down and downgraded the graphics.


The SRM pattern was always a bug, and not WAD. It just happened to be an interesting skill check.

#17 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:32 AM

View PostOnmyoudo, on 21 May 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:


The flight pattern was overpowered, so they changed it to spread more damage. The spiral curve they have in this video would mostly hit CT or even cockpits.



The SRM pattern was always a bug, and not WAD. It just happened to be an interesting skill check.


The only time missiles were OP was when splash damage was completely borked and delivering upwards of 10x the damage it was supposed to, per missile.

Everything ELSE they changed was never the problem.

#18 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:35 AM

View PostGhost Badger, on 21 May 2014 - 06:32 AM, said:


The only time missiles were OP was when splash damage was completely borked and delivering upwards of 10x the damage it was supposed to, per missile.

Everything ELSE they changed was never the problem.

First iteration of the Art4 with 90 degree direction change was a bit bad for LRMs. So much so I agreed it had to go. :D

#19 Screech

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:53 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 21 May 2014 - 06:28 AM, said:

5.6 damage was explained off as internals and ammo explosions IIRC, I haven't noticed any lost games, but would have to track that now that you mentioned it. ;) B)


Ahh, I didn't account for crits and such and was only expecting it lower due to range drop off. Lost games are only on the weapon stats page but honestly not that important if the hit/miss and damage numbers are legit.





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