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[Agent 0 Fortune]

At first glance it looks like a CN9-YLW married a CN9-AH and then adopted superman. It can definitely bring some heat to the field, but it is 5 tons lighter and in the less defensible BJ chassis. But as a Blackjack fan, I don't think I can pass this one up.

EDIT - I guess it was too good to be true, although 6 ballistic and 3 energy is still something I can work with, especially if it can house a 250+ engine.

Edited by Agent 0 Fortune, 02 June 2014 - 12:05 PM.

[cSand]

Sarlic, on 02 June 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

I hope it's sarcasmn? I am sure they can spend the resources on making or fixing assets for a map instead of mechs. You know.. like prioritising things right. And not some mechs for MC.

I like having new mechs.

[Hans Von Lohman]

Sarlic, on 02 June 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Another Hero mech again? Do they like to dig their own hole?

I don't get this statement at all. Why is ADDING more stuff to the game a bad thing?

All mech chassis need a hero mech. Now there is another design for the BlackJack.

Most of the lights need a hero mech version.

Enough with the silly idea that 3D mech artists have to stop working or be laid off because that magically speeds up bug fixes and new gamplay features...done by programmers and not 3D artists.

[627]

poor man's DD or what?

[Sarlic]

Hans Von Lohman, on 02 June 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

I don't get this statement at all. Why is ADDING more stuff to the game a bad thing?

All mech chassis need a hero mech. Now there is another design for the BlackJack.

Most of the lights need a hero mech version.

Enough with the silly idea that 3D mech artists have to stop working or be laid off because that magically speeds up bug fixes and new gamplay features...done by programmers and not 3D artists.

Did i say that? No.

Its particulary not a bad thing. But it's all about 'image'. The image i get is 'cashgrabbing'. Pump each patch a 'superb' Hero mech with some amazing lore. "Buy the new Hero mech because it's all part of the game."

Don't get me wrong. I like new mechs too, but they're building some bad marketing here. It's not like 3D artists can do only one thing. Like i said before: Their is a hoge list of broken things. Including excisting maps and mechs. i am sure their resources can be put somewhere else instead of working on MC mechs all the time. For example; fixing assets in maps. Or anything else.

Edited by Sarlic, 02 June 2014 - 12:17 PM.

[Barantor]

Blackjack now has a zombie variant I guess.

[FupDup]

I already min-maxed out the main build that just about EVERYONE will put on the hero BJ.

-XL255 engine
-2 ERLL, one per side torso (probably higher mount than the CT?)
-6 MGs, 2 tons of ammo
-4 external DHS
-3 JJs
-Max armor except for -1 point from each leg


There might be a few hipsters who try alternate builds, but overall I think this one above seems like the cream of the crop.

[Simbacca]

627, on 02 June 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

poor man's DD or what?

It does have 1 advantage over the Donald-Duck (yes I know about the jump jets...) - the Blackjack's energy hardpoints in the side torsos at least are higher mounted...

[Agent 0 Fortune]

FupDup, on 02 June 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

There might be a few hipsters who try alternate builds, but overall I think this one above seems like the cream of the crop.

I'm probably looking at 2x AC5, 4x MG, and maybe 3 small lasers.

[FupDup]

Agent 0 Fortune, on 02 June 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'm probably looking at 2x AC5, 4x MG, and maybe 3 small lasers.

At that point wouldn't you have the same speed as a heavy mech, though (with less armor and firepower)? That kind of defeats the point of being a medium.

[Scratx]

I'd comment on this thread, but I took a Blackjack to the knee...

[SgtMagor]

was hoping for a new heavy, Grasshopper. a mech that can jump farther than any other heavy with just 2 specialized jump jets 120 meters in a single bound, approx. 394 feet

Edited by SgtMagor, 02 June 2014 - 12:36 PM.

[FupDup]

Scratx, on 02 June 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'd comment on this thread, but I took a Blackjack to the knee...

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 02 June 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

I'm thinking that a 2D2 with an AC/5 (because a new player would jam up a UAC/5 constantly), 2 ML, and 4 SSRM would be better. XL300 or so engine. Gives a long-range poking tool while still retaining the close-range power of MLs and SSRMs.

if it's like the past champions, one doesn't need 2 lasers or the missile slots to build a bloody SHD-2H poptart.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 02 June 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

I already min-maxed out the main build that just about EVERYONE will put on the hero BJ.

-XL255 engine
-2 ERLL, one per side torso (probably higher mount than the CT?)
-6 MGs, 2 tons of ammo
-4 external DHS
-3 JJs
-Max armor except for -1 point from each leg


There might be a few hipsters who try alternate builds, but overall I think this one above seems like the cream of the crop.

Needs moar wub.

And 2 tons of ammo will be pretty light in my opinion.


Do we know the stock engine/max engine size yet?

[FupDup]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 June 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

if it's like the past champions, one doesn't need 2 lasers or the missile slots to build a bloody SHD-2H poptart.

Silly Bishop, run-of-the-mill poptarts don't use the Goose Rifle!


Also, I don't know if PGI would knowingly make a trial mech have a poptart build. That would be epic. Actually, for that reason, I think they should make EVERY trial mech into a poptart. Many lulz would be had that day.

[General Taskeen]

Another lore-breaking Hero mech build that won't be used for Stock events, good to know yet again. It would make sense if they were available only in a Solaris Arena Mode or are we in a Solaris Arena Mode?

Dev team Check List for Hero 'Mechs:

[ ] Huge XL beyond original engine rating ?
[ ] DHS ?
[ ] Solaris build ?


So unoriginal man, but that's the hole the game has dug itself into by design. I would be surprised if it actually has a paintscheme or unit symbol of the 8th Deneb Light Cavalry RCT.

Edited by General Taskeen, 02 June 2014 - 12:36 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Barantor, on 02 June 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

The one listed is not the hero.

This is from twitter and Russ:

Weapons & Equipment:
LA: Machine Gun x3
LT: Medium Laser
CT: Large Pulse Laser
RT: Medium Laser
RA: Machine Gun x3

Hardpoints:
Left Arm: 3 Ballistic
Left Torso: 1 Energy, 1 AMS
Center Torso: 1 Energy
Right Torso: 1 Energy
Right Arm: 3 Ballistic

4 JJs Max

wonder what engine? Cause you can color me interested! (curse you PGI!!! Stop releasing Medium Heros, you know they are my wallet's kryptonite!)

[Deathlike]

Trauglodyte, on 02 June 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Could we PLEASE have the morons over at NGNG stop creating hero mechs? I don't even necessarily think that the Arrow is bad but it would sure be nice to have PGI's lap dogs stop being the go to source for ideas. For that matter, let's have NGNG go back through and "fix" the prior heroes.

Pretty Baby said:

*sobs*
Why not meeeeeee?
*cries*

Agent 0 Fortune, on 02 June 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

At first glance it looks like a CN9-YLW married a CN9-AH and then adopted superman. It can definitely bring some heat to the field, but it is 5 tons lighter and in the less defensible BJ chassis. But as a Blackjack fan, I don't think I can pass this one up.

EDIT - I guess it was too good to be true, although 6 ballistic and 3 energy is still something I can work with, especially if it can house a 250+ engine.

Most BJs have an engine cap max of 235. I've complained before (in the archaic feedback threads of lore) that the engine cap is TOO LOW and needs to be increased to 255. I doubt Paul will make that happen, but we'll see.

[FupDup]

Mcgral18, on 02 June 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

And 2 tons of ammo will be pretty light in my opinion.

MGs are pretty efficient with ammo, and you probably won't live that long in close combat anyways.

Mcgral18, on 02 June 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Do we know the stock engine/max engine size yet?

Oh, oops. I was using the stats from the incorrect config that had 3 missile hardpoints (max of 255). That might throw a wrench in mah plans.