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#161 Khobai

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 11:36 PM

At least its not P2W like Ember. Whenever a new hero mech comes out thats not blatant P2W thats a good thing.

#162 Onmyoudo

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 11:55 PM

Great, another MG mech. They sure do love packing those in these days.

#163 Kassatsu

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 01:24 AM

View PostOnmyoudo, on 02 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Great, another MG mech. They sure do love packing those in these days.


They want people to use them to the point that they get whined about and then have them nerfed into oblivion so that people DON'T use them anymore. Kind of like a reverse psychology type thing.

#164 Onmyoudo

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 02:23 AM

View PostKassatsu, on 03 June 2014 - 01:24 AM, said:


They want people to use them to the point that they get whined about and then have them nerfed into oblivion so that people DON'T use them anymore. Kind of like a reverse psychology type thing.


People are more likely to whine about every goddamn mech on their team packing nothing but MGs and hence being useless.

#165 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 03:16 AM

View PostOnmyoudo, on 02 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Great, another MG mech. They sure do love packing those in these days.

You are being primed for the arrival of the Piranha and its 12MGs. :)

#166 Mycrus

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:01 AM

Yay let's announce cool stuff on twitter because our forum is not our target market

#167 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:12 AM

I'm kind of looking forward to this patch...(I know right?...crazy)...for the SL buff and for the introduction of clan factions....

#168 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:27 AM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 03 June 2014 - 04:12 AM, said:

I'm kind of looking forward to this patch...(I know right?...crazy)...for the SL buff and for the introduction of clan factions....

I'm interested in the probable whine for the intended Range reductions on ACs! I like ACs and am not at all upset over the range reductions.

SRMs should be interesting to see how they shake out, an the range increases on Pulse weapons... I always thought IS Pulse weapons were craptastic.

So I'm also kinda looking forward to this patch. :)

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:29 AM

OK, so which one of you is the dude on Russ's twitter feed freaking out over the timeline reset/roll back?

#170 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:30 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 03 June 2014 - 04:27 AM, said:

I'm interested in the probable whine for the intended Range reductions on ACs! I like ACs and am not at all upset over the range reductions.

SRMs should be interesting to see how they shake out, an the range increases on Pulse weapons... I always thought IS Pulse weapons were craptastic.

So I'm also kinda looking forward to this patch. ;)


Forgot about the need to AC ranges....I don't use ACs so now I'm really looking forward to the patch. :)

#171 Sprouticus

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:36 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 June 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

I use the BJ1 in SMM, lol. the rest...yeah, not in love.



The BJ is my favorite mech by a long shot. I have bee4n using them almost exclusively for a while now.

BJ-1 w/AC20 + 3ML + JJ
BJ-3 w/ 2LPL and 2ML + JJ

LOVE THEM!


A great build for this will be a Ac20 build where you can swap the location of the AC20 so people will shoot the wrong shield arm.


Caveat, I play in the mid range Elo's so I live longer. When I play in higher Elo's if I drop with clanmates the BJ is kind of delicate. :)

#172 The Great Unwashed

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:40 AM

View PostSprouticus, on 03 June 2014 - 05:36 AM, said:

A great build for this will be a Ac20 build where you can swap the location of the AC20 so people will shoot the wrong shield arm.


Somehow I doubt that players who understand the concept of shield arm aim for the arm of any Blackjack :) I shoot for the side torso; easier to hit and the arm falls off automatically... like a mini Jager.

I'm looking forward to the range nerf of the ACs. I really love the ACs but the range + speed of the AC2 was a bit much. I do not think the AC5 range reduction will have much of an effect on the meta loadouts but we'll see.

Perhaps the speed of the AC20 can be increased slightly to 700-750? It's a cannon, not a mortar...

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 03 June 2014 - 05:50 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:43 AM

View PostKhobai, on 02 June 2014 - 01:03 PM, said:

I see no real advantage to using LPLs over PPCs.

Especially when the BJ has JJs and the speed to stay over 90m away.

LPLs are still a horrible weapon that dont even come close to being as effective as PPCs.



Depends on some pilot factors. I personally am far more accurate with LPL's than PPC's. The short beam time combined with the accuracy allows me to aim for specific panels easily. Especially on light mechs.

The 2 LPL + 2ml BJ-3 w/ JJ's runs really hot, which again is a problem at higher Elo's since the matches don't last as long. but in lower Elo's it can do an insane quantity of damage for a 45 ton mech.

I agree at the top Elo ranges the PPC is better, but lets be honest, not many people are that good with PPC's. I mean how many folks can hit a light @ 200-300m in the legs with a PPC? percentage wise it is not than many.

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 03 June 2014 - 05:40 AM, said:


Somehow I doubt that players who understand the concept of shield arm aim for the arm of any Blackjack :)



Good for LRM's or SRM's though. My BJ-1 loses the shield arm more than you would expect.

#174 Gooner

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:59 AM

There will now be 12 trial mechs.

So does this mean we will also have a way to filter the trials out of our "owned" mechs? I could just about tolerate having 4 of them cluttering up my screen.

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:08 AM

View PostSprouticus, on 03 June 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Good for LRM's or SRM's though. My BJ-1 loses the shield arm more than you would expect.


Technically speaking, people who use LRMs do not aim. In fact, sometimes they cannot even manage a lock of their own :)

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:20 AM

So this patch means:

We'll see a large portion of Lone Wolves/Mercs change their allegiance to the clans as well as some IS tags.

We'll see a much greater variety of trial mechs (ideally 3/3/3/3). My guesses being the champions: Jenner, Spider, Firestarter, Blackjack/Cicada, Hunchback/Centurion, Shadowhawk, Dragon, Catapult, Cataphract/Orion, Victor, Stalker/Highlander, Atlas. Bolds could go one way or the other.

Meta shift due to the autocannon normalization. Highly anticipated, possible PPCs will reign supreme for awhile due to those not wanting to shift and stay at max range.

#177 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:22 AM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 03 June 2014 - 06:08 AM, said:


Technically speaking, people who use LRMs do not aim. In fact, sometimes they cannot even manage a lock of their own :)

That sounds like what Fire Support normally does. Gets told where to lob, throw ordinance, saves Grunt's bacon.

#178 Ngamok

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:39 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 June 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Well, you know those Daveys have all been cross since turrets were added and it took away their preferred "Cap" battleplan. :)



HEY NOW !

#179 Lightfoot

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

TrackIR, roger that.

Joystick, check.

Mad Cat, check. (well in two weeks)

Edited by Lightfoot, 03 June 2014 - 07:44 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:43 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 June 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

as opposed to all those Quality FedupSons Mechs we see? You know, the Valkyrie, Enforcer..... I mean you got some adoptees that aren't REALLY Davey mechs in game (Centy, Jager and VTR), but still waiting for your quality House Designed units to arrive!


Hush you!





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