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[Elric Tchernovkov]

So the big four get tags tomorrow. When will more clans be recognized and who will it be? Will it be clans that exist in canon but, have virtually no membership currently? Or will it be none?
I unfortunately sit in an unhappy position of being in a clan with a large active player base, but according to canon had no active role in the invasion other than observers. Will this remain true? If so, why?
Most of you who read this that are active in the game know which clan I am in. As it stands now our entire unit will likely break up because none of us wants to be a filthy mercenary, and PGI has no clear resolution on what will become of any clan other than "The Big Four".
Admittedly, CW is still 3 to 5 months away, being optimistic. I am a member of a Clan with 160+ members with over 30 being on at a time in the evenings (That is a weekday, Have not tried to count the weekend, as there are too many) there is literally always at least a four man going 24/7 on our TS3 server. As it stands now, we have four American trinaries active, and 1 EU trinary. All of these players will eventually move on to another unit because our Clan is not listed in canon as being active for the invasion.
So, the big question is, How many other clans will eventually receive tags? Of those clans why do they get tags and not others? Because of canon? You have repeatedly proven that canon is just a bunch of toilet paper.
I intend to make a nuisance of myself until all clans are recognized or I eventually get so frustrated with the Devs that I quit this game completely. And as a BT fan from the 80's, I can make a very determined nuisance.
This is something that has only been discussed among the officers of my clan. So expect 15 to 25 similar threads to start up in the near future. Kerensky help you when the rest of the clan learns of this. I foresee 100+ ******** and moaners from just my clan. There is no telling how many other players there are from the other 12 clans that will be complaining. Please PGI make us more than mercenaries that can't take more than border worlds.
I plan to continue on in a similar vein until a definitive answer is received. Any known IS trollers I will politely ignore your comments

[Prawfutt]

You raise an interesting position my maligned brethren from beyond. You want tags for your clan, that is entirely understandable. I did not expect to have tags for my clan tomorrow (fingers still crossed).

your position however on being included in the invasion force does not make sense at all. You want your tags because by cannon you are an official clan. An official clan that did not participate in the invasion. If you want to participate in the invasion and remain in your clan, there is nothing stopping you. Stay together, re-write the cannon for your clan, that is what PGI is doing when they use cannon as toilet paper anyway. As for tags ALL of us clansmen have been under the guise of mercs and worse this entire time. I hope that PGI would be willing to include your clan in the future. As of yet they did not say the big 4 were the only ones, so there is hope.

:edit: I ramble but I am actually supporting your cause.

Edited by Prawfut Bludskin, 02 June 2014 - 08:51 PM.

[Elric Tchernovkov]

There is much debate amongst the clan about loyalty points, and how they will be utilized to stay ahead of the game. As it stands now, the leadership of my clan wants to move us all in to another clan as an independent galaxy. The officer corps unanimously vetoed that. What if it becomes necessary?
I am faced with the prospect of losing many friends because PGI can not implement something as minor as a faction tag.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Depending on the unit there is lore out there that lends to Clans contracting for another one. A prime example is Clan Hell's Horses contracted a number of units out to Wolf to hit the Jade Falcons. For us we are leaning towards keeping everything the same just running with the Clan Wolf Medallion so we gain the loyalty points when those start to collect.

As we can see that all Clans will not be released in the first shot, and if they stay somewhat with the timeline CHH doesn't enter the Inner Sphere officially for sometime.

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fixed wording and brain fart, *sigh* I hate 16 day rotations
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Edited by Dark DeLaurel, 02 June 2014 - 09:34 PM.

[CHH Badkarma]

Dark DeLaurel, on 02 June 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

Depending on the unit there is lore out there that lends to Clans contracting for another one. A prime example is Clan Hell's Horses contracted a number of units out to Wolf to hit the Jade Falcons. For us we are leaning towards keeping the everything the same just running with the Clan Wolf Medallion so we gain the loyalty points when those start to collect.

As we can see that all Clans will not be released in the first shot, and if they stay somewhat with the timeline CHH doesn't enter in to the contract with Wolf for quite sometime.

I hate when you post before I do. Surat

the sad fact is this is going to leave units with long-term clan affiliation out in the cold. Personally, and I know I am not alone in this belief. I do not like the idea of changing affiliations at the drop of a hat like some units do.

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 02 June 2014 - 09:27 PM.

[Frost Lord]

they might only have the main 4 but im shure they will have all the clans covered in cockpit items.

what gets me is why havent they releced Decalls yet? they would defenatly make some money selling those even if they just started with House and clan insignias.

[Dark DeLaurel]

CHH Badkarma, on 02 June 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

I hate when you post before I do. Surat

the sad fact is this is going to leave units with long-term clan affiliation out in the cold. Personally, and I know I am not alone in this belief. I do not like the idea of changing affiliations at the drop of a hat like some units do.

Ahh but we won't be BK, we will just be a third party to Wolf. In lore the CHH units didn't change their style or unit logos while they were contracted. All they did was get direction on what planets to hit for Wolf.

[Keeshu]

Personally I think that they'll only have the 4 invading clans available at the start, and then at least 1 year later they'll add more factions for the homeworld clans if the game is popular enough. I just want to see how long it takes for queue times in Community Warfare before we add more than the 4 Invading clans to be honest. There's a reason why most games don't split up the community too much.
If PGI has the balls to add all the clan factions right away, they get major brownie points from me. They already have some brownie points for having soo many factions already.







Somewhat unrelated but I'm bored so I'm saying it anyways. When it comes to whatever faction I'll probably use:

I'm probably going to stay Kurita if we only have the 4 invading clans (Samurai honor, PPCs, Missles mainly). Sadly, I don't care much for Inner Sphere mechs, but Kurita does like Jenners and Dragons a bunch. After the Catapult, those 2 are my favorite mechs in MWO.

However, Ghost bear has my my favorite mech Mad Dog (favorite design, and it has a pretty nice build too, replace Large lasers with PPCs, Mediums with jumpjets, and find some ammo for those LRMs and it'd be perfect for me). So if we are forced to be a faction that uses the mech we want in Community warfare, I'll probably be Ghost Bear. Besides, they like having Super fast lights to scout, Heavy support, and a bunch of Assaults to hit really hard, and that's what I like in a team, especially since I like to play the heavy "support".

Nova Cats are like the Clan version of Kurita with a little more focus on ER Large lasers instead of PPCs, and Aerospace (love being in the air, so I'd use Aerospace if it was an option). They also have the Shadow Cat (my 3rd favorite Design, and it has my favorite sniping build [Fast+Gauss dedicated+Jumpjets]) Though being religious through fire is a little lame imo. They are quick to drop Zellbrigen too which is another downside. So I'd rather just be Kuritans than be nova cats.

I'd probably join Goliath Scorpion if I had a chance. The Dance of Scars sounds fun to re-enact with Mechs. They stick to Zellbrigen as much as possible. Precision focus is a nice touch. I like the whole seeker thing. Their addiction to venom to do that is a bit of a drawback though. They love lasers, and find missles (LRMs are my favorite) to be unskilled, which is strange because most of their variants/stuff they produce/design tells another story as it's usually Ballistics/Missle focused.

In Short:
So yeah, I'll choose Goliath Scorpion if it's an option. Stay Kuritan unless Ghost Bear/Smoke Jaguar decide to hold the Mad Dog hostage in which case I'll pick Ghost Bear.

[Gigastrike]

Looking at the overview of the Clan invasion on Sarna, and there are 3 Clans that were brought in later as reserves.

If you're looking forward to joining Clans Steel Viper, Nova Cat, or Diamond Shark, you're probably gonna be in luck.

[Elric Tchernovkov]

The option of contracting to Clan Wolf for loyalty points, while keeping my Clan as a separate unit sounds appealing. Hopefully PGI can figure out a way for smaller clans to do this, without having to resort to a mercenary status. I am open to the option of contracting to any other Warden Clan. Just not to becoming part of their clan.

To Keeshu: If you have already purchased a clan mech or any mech for that matter, prior to the release of CW, you will have that chassis available to play no matter what faction you are in. Sadly you can be Kurita and call your mech a "Vulture" but you WILL have it.

[Remarius]

Well Elric Tchernovkov... you certainly have the sense of entitlement of a clanner.

Very amusing post though I suspect you didn't mean it to be.

Very melodramatic.

[Elric Tchernovkov]

Which is sad. Diamond Shark has such a small player base ATM. I love their mechs and the play style. I am mainly a medium and assault pilot.

[Pariah Devalis]

Perhaps not lore friendly, I would actually love it if PGI did an active Clan census and made factions based on that. For example, most Diamond Sharks have swam off, afaik there are no active Steel Vipers, but several home world clans are active in MWO and deserve representation.  If we are to rewrite history via CW, why not mix up what Clans did and did not invade?

Edit: god dammit, autocorrect!

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 03 June 2014 - 07:48 AM.

[Gyrok]

They mentioned 3 more clan factions will get tags in game in the near future...though just the big 4 today...

[Dark DeLaurel]

Elric Tchernovkov, on 03 June 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

The option of contracting to Clan Wolf for loyalty points, while keeping my Clan as a separate unit sounds appealing. Hopefully PGI can figure out a way for smaller clans to do this, without having to resort to a mercenary status. I am open to the option of contracting to any other Warden Clan. Just not to becoming part of their clan.

Wolf is just an example that is actually based in lore, nothing says you have to go that route. As to PGI actually doing something to facilitate this i doubt it. We do not even have the basics for units in the game yet aside from faction logos.

There is also nothing that states you have to be "mercenaries" in order to setup a contract, this can all be done outside of the game. Hell you do not even have to let any one of the Invading Clans know your intentions as it is all just RP. For myself who would I contact there are I think three Clan Wolf units.

Sit back, breath and stop over thinking everything. It will all work out in the end, but not how anybody wants it to work out. The sooner we realize this the lower your blood pressure will be.

As a side note, nice to see you took the time to do a proper post and not just a text wall of rage and incoherence.

[Keeshu]

Elric Tchernovkov, on 03 June 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

To Keeshu: If you have already purchased a clan mech or any mech for that matter, prior to the release of CW, you will have that chassis available to play no matter what faction you are in. Sadly you can be Kurita and call your mech a "Vulture" but you WILL have it.

I could never call the Mad Dog a Vulture. Whenever I hear Vulture, I think of that thing that was in Mechwarrior 4. When I first saw the vulture in MW4, I thought it was an entirely different mech. Which that said it's still one of my favorite designs in Mechwarrior 4 anyways. I guess it depends on what the Mad Dog will look like whenever it gets into MWO. If it looks too much like an Inner Sphere mech I'll call it a Vulture, and in that case it will not be enough to make me want to join Ghost Bear.

[Oethe]

Well the big four tags being first makes sense. Though it would be nice to have everyone but that also doesn't make sense when so many tags are missing from the game.

Now there are three other clans in the invading list that should be up front before any other three get tags. Which are Diamond Sharks, Steel Viper and Nova Cats. On that note are the Diamond Sharks still around? I know the Nova Cats are active but I also haven't seen a post on Steel Vipers (though I haven't really been looking.)

However I wouldn't be so sure we would get those three as Russ had this to say, "As to the other 3 factions that is up for debate atm as we finalize our date rollback and how that fits in with initial release of CW"

So here is to hoping eventually we get all the Clans and I'm hoping the most active ones get recognized by PGI to be the first three.

[Pariah Devalis]

In the meantime, congrats on the emblems, you four. I think. Not sure I like how SJ and GB turned out. O_o

[LastKhan]

I think they look okay.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Oethe, on 03 June 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

So here is to hoping eventually we get all the Clans and I'm hoping the most active ones get recognized by PGI to be the first three.

Cannot argue with that sentiment. Would work for us quite nicely