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#1 Dr Morgan

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:56 AM


What's up with the new update? Now every player who joins the game has a lovely 12 Mech's covering almost every play style? What's the point of even buying a Mech if I already have a double-xp loaded champion Atlas, with 3 more assaults at the ready? I thought the whole point of using 'TRIAL' Mech's was to introduce new players into the game, giving them limitations, choosing 1 of their 4 Mech's to go into battle with and sticking with it, disciplining themselves to learn its play style and mastering its weapons. Now it's just choose a 'Mech, play, finish, and move onto another. The whole POINT of Trial 'Mechs was for their purpose to be TRIALS, not an all out buffet of almost every champion ever. Your meant to give new players limitations and force them to learn the Mech's given to them, so they can progress and have Mech's of their own. Now, it's just "Hello new Player! Here's half the ******* Mechlab!" Please tell me someone see's this as stupid too? Anyone?


#2 Bilbo

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:58 AM

I don't think you earn XP on trial mechs only c-bills. Been a while since I used one. Could be wrong.

#3 Grendel408

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:01 PM

Nope... because it allows newer players to frequent Mechs easier and allow for greater selection in what play style each different player has. I am happy PGI did this for the newbies coming into the game because only being stuck with the same 4 Mechs for several weeks can be annoying... hence why I have over 40 Mechs :ph34r: But... we would like the filter to be updated on the Mechlab area to have Trial Mechs excluded from showing in the "Owned" filter as I do not own a Trial Mech... the old UI 1.X used to have these separated, which was really nice! Now... not so much. :)

View PostBilbo, on 05 June 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

I don't think you earn XP on trial mechs only c-bills. Been a while since I used one. Could be wrong.

Very wrong... you earn XP, otherwise what's the purpose of the grind then?

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:04 PM

View PostGrendel408, on 05 June 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:

Nope... because it allows newer players to frequent Mechs easier and allow for greater selection in what play style each different player has. I am happy PGI did this for the newbies coming into the game because only being stuck with the same 4 Mechs for several weeks can be annoying... hence why I have over 40 Mechs :ph34r: But... we would like the filter to be updated on the Mechlab area to have Trial Mechs excluded from showing in the "Owned" filter as I do not own a Trial Mech... the old UI 1.X used to have these separated, which was really nice! Now... not so much. :)


Very wrong... you earn XP, otherwise what's the purpose of the grind then?

To earn the c-bills that allow you to get your own customizable mech which does earn XP along with C-bills. Like I said, been a long time since I used one.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:11 PM

First off, you don't get double XP on for using a trial 'Mech. The only time you get double XP is on your first win of the day with a 'Mech. Champion 'mechs generate 10% more XP (not sure if this applies to the trials, which are champions, as well, or only to owned champ mechs).

But why are you so mad about this?

What's wrong with giving new players a bit more variety to try out different play styles, so that they can find something that works for them a bit easier? Also, by allowing them to use a wider range of chassis, they can get a better idea of which chassis they'd like to invest their c-bills in.

It's not like they can change the loadouts on the trials - to get the full MWO experience you still have to purchase a 'Mech to enjoy any sort of customization. And more importantly, you can't SPEND any XP you earn with a trial unless you buy the 'Mech, so you don't get to use any of the efficiency upgrades (which can drastically alter a 'Mech's effectiveness).

TL;DR: calm down, dude. And nice first post - welcome to the forums.

Edited by DEMAX51, 05 June 2014 - 12:14 PM.


#6 Grendel408

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:23 PM

View PostDEMAX51, on 05 June 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

First off, you don't get double XP on for using a trial 'Mech...
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...And more importantly, you can't SPEND any XP you earn with a trial unless you buy the 'Mech, so you don't get to use any of the efficiency upgrades (which can drastically alter a 'Mech's effectiveness)...

I could swear that using a Trial Mech you get XP... and being that you don't own it you cannot unlock efficiency upgrades as you stated. At least from my experience.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:38 PM

View PostDEMAX51, on 05 June 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

TL;DR: calm down, dude. And nice first post - welcome to the forums.

View PostGrendel408, on 05 June 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

I could swear that using a Trial Mech you get XP... and being that you don't own it you cannot unlock efficiency upgrades as you stated. At least from my experience.


You can get XP. Not entirely sure if you get 10% more with the trial as with the real champion and if you do I'm sure PGI will change that (defeats the purpose of buying said champion). I'm personally using it to milk some extra x2 experience for my regular versions.

Atlas RS needs experience?
Run it. Win. 2x experience.
Need more?
Atlas RS champion trial mech.
Win. 2x experience.
Wait til next day.

Ahhh.. farming at its best.

No unlocks apply to the trial mechs, however.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:43 PM

View PostGrendel408, on 05 June 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

I could swear that using a Trial Mech you get XP... and being that you don't own it you cannot unlock efficiency upgrades as you stated. At least from my experience.

Yeah, you do earn XP - just not double as the OP claimed. And you still can't spend that earned XP until you buy the 'Mech.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:45 PM

Yeah. The double is exclusively for the first win of the day. Not all the time. :)

And that double applies to every mech in your stable. Daily I have over 100 mechs with that + the trial mechs. :ph34r:

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:50 PM

Because you cannot use said XP on mech efficiencies until you buy it. While all Basics might not be much to look at, once you Elite the mech, it's a whole 'nother ball game.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 01:01 PM

you do get XP on trial mechs, but you cannot spend it unless you own a mech of the same model. e.g. if you play the AS7-RS (c) trial mech and accumilate enough XP to complete basics then purchase and complete basics on the AS7-D and the AS7-D-DC, then purchase an AS7-RS or AS7-RS(c) you will have the XP to instantly complete all basic skills





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