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[HBizzle]

Zerberus, on 08 June 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

HBizzle, when I said you weren`t worth my time, it wasn`tnecessarily limited to this forum or thread, though it was not absolute, either..

Your time, do with it what you will.

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Maybe you even remember the matches we played together... the ones in the beginning of may where a black and red Heavy Metal with Gauss, 2erll +2srm6 was universally the last man standing on both teams for about 2 hours straight.... And back then I gave you the same advice about LRMs as everyone did in this thread. As I can clearly see, you took the advice and ran with it... just not very far.

I don't recall, but this was also over a year ago.

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But if you still feel the need to see what happens when that same pilot you were in awe of is fighting against you, as stated I also have PT running, so just hit me up and be ready to dance. However: if you complain about ANY weapon, mech, or tactic I employ, at any time, you automatically lose and I am free to leave the match and consider your humiliation final and complete.

I have never been in awe of anyone in any form of gaming or out in the real world. I am willing to twitch stream it, make a post promoting it, and admit humiliation and defeat if it does happen. Are you willing to do the same? I think it would be fun to watch it from both sides.

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Considering that `ve been playing MWO itself approximately twice as long as you have and am a former professional gamer (ESL top 5 or better in CS and Q3A, ca. 2000ish), I will make a point to be both drunk and stoned during the match so as to level the field, just as you suggested you yourself do to give someone else a fair chance.

This is me caring about your past e-penis.

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TLDR: True clanners do not engage in Trials or duels against obviously underequipped opponents, as it is dishonorable. One does not win wars by slaughtering children and ignoring the soldiers, they are won by slaughtering the soldiers and playing kickball with the children. But if the children decide to shoot first, they`re dead.

Good thing I am not a clanner and would never want to role play one as they sound like they have an absolutely horrible society.

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BTW: You are once again incorrect. For 1:1 matches, BOTH players need premium time, as the group size options are not unlocked until both companies have a commander with PT active.

Mistake acknowledged. Willing to provide premium time if you are unable to afford it.

[Sheraf]

HBizzle, on 07 June 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

Ohh I am sorry but I actually like to participate in armored maneuver warfare in MWO, not beg someone to hold a lock so I can lock on because I am unable to aim.

You prefer fast travel, more accuracy projectile flying at you when you move around the map rather than slow travel LRM, which show some warning flying at you?

That someone else holding lock, they can shoot to you know:)

[Zerberus]

HBizzle, on 08 June 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

I don't recall, but this was also over a year Month ago.

FTFY

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I have never been in awe of anyone in any form of gaming or out in the real world.  I am willing to twitch stream it, make a post promoting it, and admit humiliation and defeat if it does happen.  Are you willing to do the same?  I think it would be fun to watch it from both sides.  

Willing, yes, technically capable, no.  If that`s a deal breaker for you that`s your problem.  Otherwise name your weight class and map.

Though to be honest it looks like you`re actively looking for a way to promote yourself as some sort of wanna-badass, and I don`t really think I need to be a part of that.

Real men can hold duels between themselves and be still about it, simply accepting the outcome without gloating or pouting.  Can you? Because it looks like you`re already setting yourself up to do one or the other...

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Mistake acknowledged.  Willing to provide premium time if you are unable to afford it.

You don`t ever actually read, but just reply, right?

Becasue I`ve stated numerous times in this thread that I have premium time active, if you will recall forgetting, I was the FIRST in this thread to offer or challenge to duels to prove mettle, provided the opponent also had premium time.  I just didn`t do it out of spite or in a hissy fit, but to prove a point, so that may be why you missed it, just like all the other points others have made.

Seriously, would you even be capable of registering an exact time and date if I suggested it?  Or would you simply gloss over that in your attempts to "win" the thread, too?  I have serious doubts at this time...

Edited by Zerberus, 08 June 2014 - 08:52 AM.

[HBizzle]

Zerberus, on 08 June 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

FTFY

Wait this was last month? Were you on Comstar?

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Willing, yes, technically capable, no. If that`s a deal breaker for you that`s your problem. Otherwise name your weight class and map.

Not a dealbreaker.

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You don`t ever actually read, but just reply, right?

Becasue I`ve stated numerous times in this thread that I have premium time active, if you will recall forgetting, I was the FIRST in this thread to offer or challenge to duels to prove mettle, provided the opponent also had premium time.


Again, name your map and weight class and be online at 19:00 CEST, which BTW is in 20 minutes. No need to drag this out any longer....

Mediums, Mordor.

[Zerberus]

HBizzle, on 08 June 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

Wait this was last month? Were you on Comstar?




Not a dealbreaker.



Mediums, Mordor.

Accepted, logging in now.

Lobby open, invite sent.

)=$(§/6349°° Unstable client... now I can`t even be on 5 minutes to create a private match or what`?!?

Either way, new lobby is open, let`s get this done.

1:0 for you

Edited by Zerberus, 08 June 2014 - 09:41 AM.

[Gyrok]

Khobai, on 07 June 2014 - 05:14 AM, said:

Personally Id like to see the following changes to LRMs:

-ECM no longer gives aoe bubble stealth, and now only stealths the mech its equipped on
-LRM cooldown is increased by 30%, and LRM damage is also increased by 30%.
-LRM impulse decreased

What that does is prevent ECM from completely shutting down LRMs, but it also makes it so chain-fired LRM5s fire much slower, and cant stunlock mechs anymore.

This but no damage buff...I would be ok with a speed increase is the impulse was almost zero. Chain fired LRM5s are worse than AC20 cockpit shake...combine that with every other mech in PUG drops running LRM20-40 and suddenly LRMs are daunting because if something gets LOS on you, you are instantly focused.

1 LRM boat is not the issue, it is the 3-5 LRM boats per game you see that are the issue.

[HBizzle]

Give me like 5 minutes to make sure twitch is working.

[Valdemaar]

I would like to propose a radical idea. Let's nerf the nerf gun and leave LRM's alone.

[HBizzle]

You too can watch our 1 v 1 in Mordor.

http://www.twitch.tv/hbizzle26

[HBizzle]

I won. Zerberus was a good sport though.

[HBizzle]

Video is up on my twitch channel here: http://www.twitch.tv...e26/b/536652321 Go to the 13 minute mark.

[Mavairo]

At the end of the day you made this thread complaining about how ludicrously OP LRMs are. Now you won't use them "because they suck". So is this thread a troll then?

I and others, have pointed out what you've been doing wrong, and it's a universal thing. In my ELO there aren't many LRMs about, there might be one or two boats on the field Tops. Popretarts on the other hand are MUCH more common. In 12 mans hardly anyone takes LRMs, for all that "super opness!" that they possess...why is it in the que where every bit of efficiency and killing power matters the most that it's all Pop Retarts, aside from the Odd DDC? (usually me in 12 mans) I can tell you this, it's not because 12 man groups feel some sense of "Fairplay and mercy" for their opponents.

As far as "going" with you, why would I want to waste my time and money?
You're juvenile enough that you are taking advice as an insult.

For that matter as an Individual player you could well be better than I am.
But I bet if you put me with 3 like minded guys from this very thread, and you found 3 guys that agreed with you, and 8 pugs on each team. I bet you'd get rolled over dead fast.

Hell all we'd have to do is mass LRMS and watch you guys flail about like lost children.

Edited by Mavairo, 08 June 2014 - 10:16 AM.

[HBizzle]

Mavairo, on 08 June 2014 - 10:09 AM, said:

At the end of the day you made this thread complaining about how ludicrously OP LRMs are. Now you won't use them "because they suck". So is this thread a troll then?

I and others, have pointed out what you've been doing wrong, and it's a universal thing. In my ELO there aren't many LRMs about, there might be one or two boats on the field Tops. Popretarts on the other hand are MUCH more common. In 12 mans hardly anyone takes LRMs, for all that "super opness!" that they possess...why is it in the que where every bit of efficiency and killing power matters the most that it's all Pop Retarts, aside from the Odd DDC? I can tell you this, it's not because 12 man groups feel some sense of "Fairplay and mercy" for their opponents.

As far as "going" with you, why would I want to waste my time and money?
You're juvenile enough that you are taking advice as an insult.

For that matter as an Individual player you could well be better than I am.
But I bet if you put me with 3 like minded guys from this very thread, and you found 3 guys that agreed with you, and 8 pugs on each team. I bet you'd get rolled over dead fast.

Give me some time and I am sure we could arrange something like that. Hell could do a 6 v 6 or 7 v 7 if yah want. I got a unit with folks that would be game.

[Mavairo]

SO which is it?

LRMs Suck, or are they OP and unbeatable? (your words from this thread)

[HBizzle]

Mavairo, on 08 June 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

SO which is it?

LRMs Suck, or are they OP and unbeatable? (your words from this thread)

LRMs suck. I think they are OP when you have lances of LRM boats running together. All the AMS and ECM in the world isn't going to stop 3 A1's and a NARC/TAG equipped raven riding targeting for them.

Though this is me complaining about sound tactics to run that.

[Abivard]

HBizzle, on 08 June 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

LRMs suck. I think they are OP when you have lances of LRM boats running together. All the AMS and ECM in the world isn't going to stop 3 A1's and a NARC/TAG equipped raven riding targeting for them.

Though this is me complaining about sound tactics to run that.

3 A1's? OMG yum yum yum, can anyone say easy and y=tasty meat!, A1's are the few mechs I toy with, first the ears, then one leg, then on to the next. who cares about killing them.

A1's roflmbao, 'nuff said.

2 ECM is all you need!

[Kirtanus]

i had to use AMS when lrms where faster not long time ago, but now it's enough to move with a bit of wisdom to feel okay against any LRM boats.

[Mavairo]

HBizzle, on 08 June 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

LRMs suck. I think they are OP when you have lances of LRM boats running together. All the AMS and ECM in the world isn't going to stop 3 A1's and a NARC/TAG equipped raven riding targeting for them.

Though this is me complaining about sound tactics to run that.

So then why are LRM Boats non existent in 12 mans? Why does hardly anyone above the lower ELO tiers, use LRMs in pug play? I mean after all they are superior firepower, right? So why is it the better players in the game do not use them?

Also... LOL A1s how quaint. The real LRM Boat is the 8R Awesome and even that is just so much bait for Real Meta mechs. The A1 doesn't have the tonnage to make a true cloud of LRM firepower.
If you're going to complain about LRMS complain about the one that's actually somewhat dangerous en mass.

Why do you think everyone ditched LRMs not even a full week after their last buff? It's not because of some sense of great sportsmanship.

Edited by Mavairo, 08 June 2014 - 12:50 PM.

[HBizzle]

Abivard, on 08 June 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

3 A1's? OMG yum yum yum, can anyone say easy and y=tasty meat!, A1's are the few mechs I toy with, first the ears, then one leg, then on to the next. who cares about killing them.

A1's roflmbao, 'nuff said.

2 ECM is all you need!

we didnt have any ecm in our lance, dropped with a friend, not a full one.

Edited by HBizzle, 08 June 2014 - 01:23 PM.

[Mavairo]

HBizzle, on 08 June 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

we didnt have any ecm in our lance, dropped with a friend, not a full one.

You don't even need 2 ECM mechs. Even just everyone carrying a deck of AMS, and situational awareness can hunt down and mop up LRM boats.

AMS stacks better than LRMs does. a lance of 3 Jesters and 1 AS7 K make a joke out of LRMs all on their lonesome. Hell 3 Jesters properly equipped will make mince meat out of any LRM team, as they advance through cover, move at 95 kph and slam the LRM boats with 38 point alphas. If you're really phobic about LRMs just take 3 Jesters to the field. You'll get out of LRM Hell Tier in no time flat and probably pad your KDR to insane levels. Certainly in a Jester.

Edited by Mavairo, 08 June 2014 - 01:48 PM.