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[Diablobo]

I predict as soon as the Public Test Server opens, a bunch of people head to the testing grounds and alpha their Nova Prime. If there is no testing ground, I'm still going to do it in a match just to see what happens.

Admit it, you guys are curious to know what happens also. You have to try it at least once.

Edited by Diablobo, 12 June 2014 - 08:53 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Diablobo, on 12 June 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

I predict as soon as the Public Test Server opens, a bunch of people head to the testing grounds and alpha their Nova Prime. If there is no testing ground, I'm still going to do it in a match just to see what happens.

Admit it, you guys are curious to know what happens also. You have to try it at least once.

We shopuld make a nova mass drop and instantly all going supernova xD
Then we call this event the clanner big bang

[Sky Hawk]

My Plan, If I have my Nova (end august):
- I go into Caustic Valley (TG), and fire those 12 ML and melt - then I go back to MechLab..
- I go into CV and fire 11 ML and melt - then I go back to MechLab...
- I go into CV and fire 10 ML and melt - then I go back to MechLab...

At the end, I'll learn it too use them... somehow..

[Tombstoner]

Such focus on trying to make the largest alpha. With suficant skill you can place all 12 in the same location with no ghost heat.

1 large no skill alpha vs 2 smaller no skill alphas.....

I'm looking forward to the challenge.

[Damocles69]

LordKnightFandragon, on 11 June 2014 - 07:13 PM, said:

Maybe the whole idea is not to alpha strike everything, every shot.

You're doing it wrong

[Diablobo]

The fun begins in one hour.

[Almond Brown]

Diablobo, on 11 June 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Oh, yes...of course. That always works. If you tell someone not to do something, they never try it anyway. What fricking world do you guys live in?

Perhaps that type of Test should be done on the Testing Grounds, otherwise you may as well just DC yourself upon arrival.

I have yet to find it amusing, in game, when I have to read, "Dumbarse has killed Dumbarse"

P.S. And "Dumbarse" is always on your Team...

Edited by Almond Brown, 12 June 2014 - 09:10 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Tombstoner, on 12 June 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:

Such focus on trying to make the largest alpha. With suficant skill you can place all 12 in the same location with no ghost heat.

So you eman your mech can magically run in faster circles than the opponent can torso twist? I doubt that, thsi kind of sufficient skill will only work when your opponent doesn't pays attention.

[RussianWolf]

Scratx, on 11 June 2014 - 07:22 PM, said:

I think I'll probably launch on testing grounds to fire off a full alpha from the Nova Prime just to laugh a bit and get the impulse out of myself. Then go kill people with it.

did that with a supernova in MW3. loaded it up with all the lasers I could fit. alpha BOOM. instantly blew to bits. lol

heat management is part of the game. learn it or it will burn you.

[Mcgral18]

Lily from animove, on 12 June 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

So you eman your mech can magically run in faster circles than the opponent can torso twist? I doubt that, thsi kind of sufficient skill will only work when your opponent doesn't pays attention.

Well, you can always go for legs.

Most Nova builds will be able to remove all the leg armor from 80 tonners before their first weapon is recycled.

You can't really spread leg damage.

[Diablobo]

Hey guys....FYI.

The Public Test Server is open for patching, I'm not sure about playing yet, but get your patching done now.

It would be hilarious if we could all get our Nova Primes and alpha them all at once, with like as many players as there are on the server. I wonder if the server would crash from all the heat?

LMAO

[tucsonspeed6]

A metaphors:

A toddler touches a hot stove and after a few minutes of crying learns to never touch a hot stove again.

A forum-warrior touches a hot stove and immediately runs to their computer to type a scathing rant about how stoves are completely unusable, pot holders are OP, demand a buff to microwaved food so their freezer full of steaks can be cooked with the same quality without the risk of burns, declare the food prep process to be so unbalanced that the only edible food left in the world is cold cereal, and conjure up a conspiracy theory about how the very fact that one can burn their fingers on a kitchen appliance is proof that the kitchen appliance developers are incompetent evil geniuses who only act in ways that result in a cash grab, forcing everyone to order takeout. Then after a failed twitter campaign '#saveDinner', the forum warrior joins a new campaign, N.O. B.U.B (Not one bite until burn-free) to force the kitchen appliance developers to invent the Star Trek replicator by this time next week.

[Corwin Vickers]

The Nova Prime could alpha it's weapons in both the board game and the 3056 MUSE.

At least once before having to cool down or risk an automatic shutdown.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Sephlock, on 11 June 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

FWIW I could see using 2-4 ER LLas (chain fired and/or in two different groups) and 8-10 ER SLas.

The problem with the Nova is its limited weight allowance. Being unable to switch out the standard internal structure to gain that extra 3-4 tons is really going to hurt this mech. 12 ER Medium Lasers is only 12 tons that your able to allocate to weapons without reducing armor or heat sinks. That is not alot when PPCs weight 7 tons and LLs weigh 5 tons.

That being said, I am probably going try to run 2 Clan ER LL and 4 Clan ER ML on 16 DHS. However, I still think this is going to put out too much heat since they are going to screw all the clan weapons over by making them even hotter than the already hot weapons we have in game.

[Dymlos2003]

If you alpha with a Nova Prime you are shut down for atleast 15+ seconds. Which means you're dead.

[Mcgral18]

Viktor Drake, on 12 June 2014 - 10:42 AM, said:

The problem with the Nova is its limited weight allowance. Being unable to switch out the standard internal structure to gain that extra 3-4 tons is really going to hurt this mech. 12 ER Medium Lasers is only 12 tons that your able to allocate to weapons without reducing armor or heat sinks. That is not alot when PPCs weight 7 tons and LLs weigh 5 tons.

That being said, I am probably going try to run 2 Clan ER LL and 4 Clan ER ML on 16 DHS. However, I still think this is going to put out too much heat since they are going to screw all the clan weapons over by making them even hotter than the already hot weapons we have in game.

PPCs are 6 tons, ERLLs are 4 tons.

16 tons total pod space. ERSLs are your friend, shorter range, half heat isMLs.

You can get a 88 firepower rating on that beast of a mech, or a 68 damage alpha strike. Remove all of a Victor's leg armor, then use those machine guns to crit anything inside.

Edited by Mcgral18, 12 June 2014 - 10:48 AM.

[Phantomime]

Firelizard, on 11 June 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Left arm group, right arm group, chain-fire all group.

Heat problems solved.

would be nice if you could set it up to chain fire groups.. hold the button, 6 fire, duration, next 6 fire... could keep that going for a loong loong time.

[lOoOI]

cSand, on 11 June 2014 - 07:22 PM, said:

Ford is putting cars in people's hands that let them drive off a cliff into the grand canyon, killing all on board?

SOUNDS LIKE FORD IS PUTTING OUT BAD DESIGNS

if you want to talk about bad designs, how about the Pinto and the Suzuki Samurai? XD

[Warblood]

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According to Smurfy's ghost heat chart, a 12 med laser alpha will generate 101.6 heat. This does not include the extra heat for ER med lasers.

If Clan ER med lasers will have the same ghost heat penalties, then the Nova Prime is going to fry itself with one alpha.

Even with the expanded heat scale (which only goes to +50 heat), the pilot will hurt himself, the mech will suffer damage, and the mech will automatically shut down. That would still leave another 20+ points of heat beyond that.

I say we allow mechs to blow up if they reach a super high level of heat. If ever there was a mech hot enough to Stackpole itself, then the Nova Prime would be it.

Unless PGI makes an exception for the Nova Prime, there are going to be new pilots who fire an alpha and have to sit shutdown for who knows how long it takes to dissipate all that heat. That doesn't sound like much fun. In the heat of battle (heh), pilots can easily make a mistake and fire all their weapons at once.

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You do know PGI didn't directly design that mech right?
Ghost heat or not, common sense dictates firing 12 laser at once will not pay off.

[Ghogiel]

Im putting 12 ERsmalls, 4 MG, 18 DHS and a mk2 targeting comp on the nova for that 60dmg alpha no ghost 2.5sec recycle leg murdering gglolz action.