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[Gwydion Ward]

With the Clan sneak-peek of yesterday... What sort of Crazy (but useful) Setups/loadouts did you guys come up with for Clan Mechs?

My personal Favorite, though it needs some tweaking as its 100% ammo dependent (or was), Is a Dire Wolf with:

4x Clan UAC-2's
2x Clan LBX-20's
(will add 2 lasers (one to each of the arms) to remove the 100% ammo dependency)

As off-the-wall as this was (did it on a whim), it actually worked amazingly well. Got 5 kills with it on its maiden voyage under that setup. And there's just something satisfying about seeing a Light/Medium Mech simply melt after taking dual LBX-20's to the face, or side. (i literally one-shot both legs out from under a moving light at one point during the night)

So what odd/crazy... But useful, setups did everyone manage to find?

[Bishop Steiner]

spent very little time in the DireWhale yesterday. Too slow and porky.

That said, I did run one with 2x UAC20, 2x ERPPC and 4x MG, and another with a UAC20, 2 UAC5 and 2 ER PPC and both did well, unless I got flanked.

[Carrioncrows]

Kit-Fox - S
UAC10 (Right torso) x3 tons of ammo
Er medium
x2 ER Smalls
x2 jumpjets

Summoner
UAC10 (Right torso) x3 tons of ammo
x4 Er mediums (Arms)
SRM6 (Left torso) x1 ton of ammo

Stormcrow
x2 CLRM20's (Torsos) x6 tons of ammo
x4 Er Mediums (Arms)

Kitfox
x1 ER PPC
x1 Er medium
x1 Er small
x2 Mguns
x3 AMS
x1 ECM
x2 Jumpjets

[Firelizard]

Timberwolf: 2 LRM10, 2 SSRM6, 2 MGUN, 4 ERMLAS. If I target it, I can likely shoot it with something.

[Sephlock]

Remembering my 4x UAC/5 Jagermech build (which was quite satisfying, especially when I stared down an enemy Atlas and whupped it), I tried a 6x UAC/5 Dire Wolf and the server issues (I assume that's what causes ultra autocannons to not fire even when they are not jammed or in cooldown and i am mashing the button(s)*) caused them to be.... less effective than I had hoped.

OTOH LURMs were effective due to there being so many people piloting Clan mechs with no AMS and Kit Foxes being too selfish to equip their 3x AMS along with their ECM suites.

One wonders whether or not the playerbase will be smart enough to realize that all they need to do is take AMS to solve the- ha! I couldn't keep a straight (virtual) face. Yeah, Lurms are gonna get nerfed.


*I tried mapping them to both left and right click and alternating, then I tried mashing them at the same time, then I tried just seizure-tapping them... they pretty much worked whenever they damn well felt like it, which was generally not for very long when I was facing down an enemy mech.

[Pygar]

I did not get to customize things very much, as I did not have enough C-bills and I also did not have the mechs that were good for coming up with crazy (but functional) builds.

I will say that the Nova Prime variant run stock falls right into this category nicely- broken into groups of 4 and stagger-fired, the Nova can fire 16 lasers before it has to stop, which is like 112 damage in several seconds time.

[Gwydion Ward]

Carrioncrows, on 13 June 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Stormcrow
x2 CLRM20's (Torsos) x6 tons of ammo
x4 Er Mediums (Arms)

Why does that make me think of the Vulture?........ Might have to pick up a Stormcrow when their in the Mechbays now...

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Kitfox
x1 ER PPC
x1 Er medium
x1 Er small
x2 Mguns
x3 AMS
x1 ECM
x2 Jumpjets

Looks like ya made a 'guardian' there.... tried that with a Locust when the Phoenix Mech's came out and didnt do so well.

[Firelizard]

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

OTOH LURMs were effective due to there being so many people piloting Clan mechs with no AMS and Kit Foxes being too selfish to equip their 3x AMS along with their ECM suites.

I dont remember seeing many AMS hardpoints available on the clan mechs I was driving. Maybe I didnt notice them, but it was something that stood out as odd to me.

[Gwydion Ward]

Sephlock, on 13 June 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

I tried a 6x UAC/5 Dire Wolf and the server issues (I assume that's what causes ultra autocannons to not fire even when they are not jammed or in cooldown and i am mashing the button(s)*) caused them to be.... less effective than I had hoped.

I Actually wanted to try that.. but then the servers started not letting me get past the 'connecting' or 'searching' screens... so gave up on that attempt. Asside from the firering issues, did it seem to work well (no ammo issues/heat issues?)

[Firelizard]

Rhapsody Repine, on 13 June 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

I Actually wanted to try that.. but then the servers started not letting me get past the 'connecting' or 'searching' screens... so gave up on that attempt. Asside from the firering issues, did it seem to work well (no ammo issues/heat issues?)

I tried a quad UAC5 Dire Wolf instead of six, but even firing full tilt I was either heat neutral or so close I didnt notice.

[Ravenspyre]

I honestly didn't try changing set ups all that much. I just stuck with a default set up to get use to the mech, since I hadn't played in a while, and was pleasantly surprised with the sturdiness and useful in all manner of combat with the Timber Wolf. I only used the prime, as I was just there to enjoy my time and not worry about if I should be changing specs. I will save that for live for theory crafting when I need to worry about if PGI nerfs anything due to whining.

[Gwydion Ward]

Firelizard, on 13 June 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I dont remember seeing many AMS hardpoints available on the clan mechs I was driving. Maybe I didnt notice them, but it was something that stood out as odd to me.

There Not on the "Prime" Varients.. but some of the 'pods' have AMS capability.

[Bishop Steiner]

Rhapsody Repine, on 13 June 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

Why does that make me think of the Vulture?........ Might have to pick up a Stormcrow when their in the Mechbays now...



Looks like ya made a 'guardian' there.... tried that with a Locust when the Phoenix Mech's came out and didnt do so well.

10 tons heavier, 50% more armor, extra AMS and ECM all kinda make it a wee different from a locust.

[Sephlock]

Rhapsody Repine, on 13 June 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

I Actually wanted to try that.. but then the servers started not letting me get past the 'connecting' or 'searching' screens... so gave up on that attempt. Asside from the firering issues, did it seem to work well (no ammo issues/heat issues?)

Yeah those were fine.

You should hop on the bandwagon and get in your harmless fun before it gets unjustly nerfed.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Timber Wolf Prime with an S Left Torso, though I mixed and matched a bit to try different builds. Like 2 S Torsos for 4 launchers, an A or C RA for the UAC20, etc.

4 ERML
2 UAC5 - 5 tons of ammo
2 JJs

4 ERML
2 UAC10 - (3 or 4 tons of ammo)

4 ERML
2 AC10s - (3 or 4 tons of ammo)

2 ER PPCs
1 UAC20 - (3 tons of ammo)

2 ER PPC
4 SRM6 - 6 tons of ammo
2 JJs

2 LPL
2 SRM6 - 6 tons of ammo
2 SRM4
2 JJs



I took a bunch of stocks for a test spin and the only one that really stood out to me was the Dire A. Those 3 LPLs could completely ignore ghost heat. 3 LPLs and 1 Gauss literally ripped stuff to pieces in the testing grounds. 2 salvos to take out a Cataphract or Awesome without even using the cSSRM6s. Literally 1 shotted a Catapult. Pretty clear indication that 2 ER PPCs, 2 Gauss would be effective, and deadly. I'm not an assault pilot though.

One of the shocking things I noticed was that most had their arms locked, but I later learned you could swap arms and enable lower actuators to solve that for some mechs. I was going to customize a Summoner but was having too much fun in an earless Timber Wolf (which got a LOT of comments from people)

Edited by ShadowWolf Kell, 13 June 2014 - 02:14 PM.

[Carrioncrows]

Rhapsody Repine, on 13 June 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

Why does that make me think of the Vulture?........ Might have to pick up a Stormcrow when their in the Mechbays now...

it works extremely well

http://www.twitch.tv...ows/b/537955702 @1 hour 25 mins.

[Felbombling]

Stormcrow: 1x AC/20, 3x Medium Pulse Laser

I went with the AC/20 over the Ultra/20 because I kept running into heat problems. Trigger discipline is a problem! Ranges on the weapons seemed to mesh well.

Summoner: 1x Ultra AC/5, 1x ER PPC, 1x LRM 10

No trigger discipline problems with the Ultra/5, however. Just keep clicking the mouse and use the tracers to land your ER PPC shots.

Dire Wolf: 1x Gauss Rifle, 2x Ultra AC/10, 2x ER Large Laser

Oddly, the 2x Ultra AC/10s outperformed, for me at least, the dual Ultra AC/20 combo. Heat kept rising, and even trying to stagger the Ultra 20s had only a limited effect on heat generation. The dual 10s were perfect in combination, however, and linking the arm-mounted ER Large Lasers and the Gauss Rifle together worked out well, too. By the time the beam duration was finished on the ERs, the Gauss was ready to fire by releasing the mouse button.

[tucsonspeed6]

For some reason I forgot to try it, but I'm pretty sure you can make a baby Bushwacker out of the Uller. Maybe I'll remember to try it on Sunday.

[qki]

'crow

uac10, 2 ERML, ERSL, 2 SRM6, AMS, 11 DHS

ERLL, 2 MPL, ERSL, 2 SSRM6, AMS, BAP, 14 DHS

2 LRM20, 2 SSRM4, 2 ERML, BAP (slightly modified D loadout, dropping the narc and 2 tons of lrm ammo for 2 ML and streak 4s instead of srm2)

LRM20, 2 SSRM6, 4 ERML, 13 DHS, BAP (pretty close to stock A, with ERML instead of MPL, 3 additional dhs and bap)


Overall, the stormcrow is very straightforward to configure, as it comes with max armour, and clocks at 97 kph, with 23 tons of pod space.