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#321 Alienized

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 05:52 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 01 April 2015 - 05:30 AM, said:


honestly its only more puloverising when using 10 SPL's anything else below, the SCR can do the same or better. The reaosn why many novas appear more pulverising is that SCR is so meta many people use it and so the chance of a lesser skilled pilot screwing it up in a SCR is possible. While the last remainign NVA Pilots mostly know what they do. Becaue newbies and sane pilots already dropped that mech.


If you like the Nova, never step in a SCR EVER. it will make you sad once you go back into a Nova knowing how bad this mech in comparison is.


as you said, if you see a nova you can literally tell its a damn good pilot ;) SCR's.... are a snack for my quickdraw. but small pulse lasers or small lasers can hardly be torso-twisted away. a SCR will never mount small's and therefore you can spread their lasers out on the complete mech while use your own shorter beam duration as advantage.

also i never step up to a timberwolf to leave my quickdraw. i just have the 3 timbers because.... icon. but i prefer the quickie-5k.

same literally goes for the victor. i love that thing altho i have banshee's and atlai (am not really interested in dire's or warhawks even though they been the first things i read of... the 4 er ppc warhawk from jeremiah rose of the black thorns.....)

but then, there were the battlemaster and warhammer :P also the marauder. these kept me interested.


i would guess i can play the nova pretty much like the victor, just more in the backstabber role. the victor aint small enuff but works completely fine.
they arent mechs for alot of damage done but taking out mechs ASAP by firing through their centers or XL sides.
the best battles with the victor are these where i can take out mechs before they harm me much.
precise aim to one spot. no spread damage. that will kill you too fast sitting in a victor and i guess the same goes for the nova.

#322 Lily from animove

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 06:14 AM

View PostAlienized, on 01 April 2015 - 05:52 AM, said:


as you said, if you see a nova you can literally tell its a damn good pilot ;) SCR's.... are a snack for my quickdraw. but small pulse lasers or small lasers can hardly be torso-twisted away. a SCR will never mount small's and therefore you can spread their lasers out on the complete mech while use your own shorter beam duration as advantage.

also i never step up to a timberwolf to leave my quickdraw. i just have the 3 timbers because.... icon. but i prefer the quickie-5k.

same literally goes for the victor. i love that thing altho i have banshee's and atlai (am not really interested in dire's or warhawks even though they been the first things i read of... the 4 er ppc warhawk from jeremiah rose of the black thorns.....)

but then, there were the battlemaster and warhammer :P also the marauder. these kept me interested.


i would guess i can play the nova pretty much like the victor, just more in the backstabber role. the victor aint small enuff but works completely fine.
they arent mechs for alot of damage done but taking out mechs ASAP by firing through their centers or XL sides.
the best battles with the victor are these where i can take out mechs before they harm me much.
precise aim to one spot. no spread damage. that will kill you too fast sitting in a victor and i guess the same goes for the nova.


SCR A is reinforcement exclusive atm.

but this even if slightly undertonnages, is quite tempting.

The speed to hit and strike, the cooling, the tc's increasing range and crit. SO TEMPTING TO PLAY THAT.

and lets not think about what may happen PGI one days does make the 6E arm variant.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 06:54 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 01 April 2015 - 06:14 AM, said:


SCR A is reinforcement exclusive atm.

but this even if slightly undertonnages, is quite tempting.

The speed to hit and strike, the cooling, the tc's increasing range and crit. SO TEMPTING TO PLAY THAT.

and lets not think about what may happen PGI one days does make the 6E arm variant.


so why did PGI even include the Nova if its subpar in anyway with that reinforcement SCR?
imho they fked massively up with the SCR overall.
just like the firestarter quirks made the jenner obsolete in every matter.
before quirkening, that tournament.... jenner's going crazy everywhere without overdramatic quirks.
now.... firestarters going even more crazy and jenners are extinct....
i cant help myself but some things just went completely wrong on these mechs =/

i would just buy the nova to be the underdog to be honest. i love to be the underdog :P

#324 That Dawg

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 07:02 AM

Can't be underdog on a CW deck drop.

now, the nova with 10 small pulse is still deadly, broke a grand running it, but also got rolled too many times.
funny part, I have now bought my novaS twice and the arms to make it do what I want four times....and sold it to buy something actually viable in CW.
nova- my favorite mech....pity

#325 Tim East

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 10:22 AM

View PostTarogato, on 01 April 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Almost a year later and I still have to read the grammatical error in the title of this thread every time somebody posts in it...

To be fair, that particular error is something that would not necessarily be obvious to a non-native speaker of the language, since it violates the general rule of "an before words that start with vowels, a before words that do not." English is a rather counter-intuitive language in a lot of ways.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 10:32 AM

View PostTim East, on 01 April 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

To be fair, that particular error is something that would not necessarily be obvious to a non-native speaker of the language, since it violates the general rule of "an before words that start with vowels, a before words that do not." English is a rather counter-intuitive language in a lot of ways.

"An Ouuce-less mech" ! =D

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:09 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 01 April 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:


300damage matches this is honestly just "not bad" but its still not Ok, or even good,not speaking about amazing or awesome.
My 300 dmg estimation is taking into account an average pilot and if your pug team sucks. I usually do at least 300dmg, but I average around 580 per match, 2-3 kills.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:27 PM

NVA-PRIME is great for hunting down larger mechs. Just one armful of lasers from this guy is dangerous. Look for opportunities when you can fire at a stationary enemy, and you will maximize your dmg-to-kill conversion. I usually try to keep myself hidden, then jump out at an enemy while they're distracted.

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 11:45 PM

I really agree with all your "it's great", "it has a role", "not so bad" thus I sold all my novas

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 04:20 AM

View PostAlienized, on 01 April 2015 - 06:54 AM, said:


so why did PGI even include the Nova if its subpar in anyway with that reinforcement SCR?
imho they fked massively up with the SCR overall.
just like the firestarter quirks made the jenner obsolete in every matter.
before quirkening, that tournament.... jenner's going crazy everywhere without overdramatic quirks.
now.... firestarters going even more crazy and jenners are extinct....
i cant help myself but some things just went completely wrong on these mechs =/

i would just buy the nova to be the underdog to be honest. i love to be the underdog :P


Well they made the Wave 1 mostly consisting of the popular clanmechs, especially forcing the "omnipod" design idea. And Nova and SCR are those because they have the same legs, as well as kfx and adr have the same, and the whk and dwf. I doubt someone really had a true comparable view at them at this point.

View PostSirSlaughter, on 05 April 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

I really agree with all your "it's great", "it has a role", "not so bad" thus I sold all my novas


yeah its a great source of money, with its role to be sold the money income was not even so bad

xD

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Posted 10 April 2015 - 01:08 PM

How I play the Nova:



http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4d20b424475d3fb

Edited by 3CLIPZ3, 10 April 2015 - 01:09 PM.


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 03:30 PM

Nova Prime, 10ERSL. Pug-Clubber.

Role and only use. Clubbing Pugs.

No CW. No Team drops. No serious play.

Just lazoring bads.

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 03:48 PM

Actually, Novas are the Backbone of my CW drop load out. One classic Nova Prime, with 12 ER medium Lasers for 'sniping', poking, flanking and generally being a 'Mech of the Line', and one 12 ER Small Lasers for Brawling and Flanking. I bring them every drop. They outperform my Timber wolf and Hellbringer, and I'm seriously considering going back to a three nova drop Loadout, and to heck with the wasted tonnage.

First match I ever surpassed 2k damage was in a three nova one gargoyle drop, and the Gargoyle didn't even get me 250 damage.

Novas are beasts, and while yes, other mechs might provide better armour, I can only compare their damage output to a comparable nova, and lament.

~Leone, Raid Leader of the Crimson Hand.

Edited by Leone, 16 April 2015 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 07:46 PM

View PostThat Dawg, on 05 December 2014 - 05:03 AM, said:

I settled into a 2 ERLPulse, 4 sl's and 4mg's. with a pair of modules for the erlp's......its a hoot. not its old glory face melt fun, but its earning good cbills, xp, love the feel of the mech, plenty mobile, places like mining, or canyon. you can vomit small lasers and mg's at anything and manage heat nail 'em with the large pulse. Its definitely a go to mech friday night at the fights NVA-S and dont forget to try the joke mech, somewhere I posted screens of 500 damage and kills and my entire mech is glowing red missing an arm and a leg NVA-S Inspired by the "head shaking face palm build" thread, just stay as far back, but keep up to, the pack as possible.
I assume you put some ammo in that build for your Machine Guns, right?

By the way, I did a similar build with my Nova B, haha.  2ERLL, 4ERSL, 4MG.  It's not very optimized for any one thing, but it's hard to find a situation where you aren't at least a decent mech, and you can still be scary up close.

[Edit]  I will admit Stormcrows are better than Novas.  Nova seems be be the kind of Mech that should have had ECM, but never got it.

Edited by Smag, 16 April 2015 - 07:50 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:05 AM

Lily is correct but they are also very boring machines when everyone runs them.
Too bad she can't see that.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:29 AM

Right it's not very good , but isn't this thing http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7fea280326eae07 kinda of a something only it can do for now, it seems decent , with the quirks and all...

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 08:06 AM

I hate the Nova on uneven ground. Half my lazors end up buring worms instead of enemy mechs.

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 09:15 AM

Well, I played all of the Novas and I must admit it is a love/hate mech. Not as fast as the other Clan mediums, wide in arms, and it's head is exposed even if You block damage with Your arm. But I love that frog looking 50 ton jumper. Acctualy i run a lot the Nova - A. Changed the 2xPPC to 2xER-LL and it bites like a charm.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 06:40 AM

View PostLeone, on 16 April 2015 - 03:48 PM, said:

Actually, Novas are the Backbone of my CW drop load out. One classic Nova Prime, with 12 ER medium Lasers for 'sniping', poking, flanking and generally being a 'Mech of the Line', and one 12 ER Small Lasers for Brawling and Flanking. I bring them every drop. They outperform my Timber wolf and Hellbringer, and I'm seriously considering going back to a three nova drop Loadout, and to heck with the wasted tonnage.

First match I ever surpassed 2k damage was in a three nova one gargoyle drop, and the Gargoyle didn't even get me 250 damage.

Novas are beasts, and while yes, other mechs might provide better armour, I can only compare their damage output to a comparable nova, and lament.

~Leone, Raid Leader of the Crimson Hand.


if you make better results in your Nova's than your timberwolf, well thats not a matter of firepower or how good the Nova is, thats a matter of how you play your TBR not as it my be meant to be played. It's quite easy getting 700+ damage in a single TBR in CW. given you are not the last getting rushed by multiple people at once.

View PostKowalien, on 19 April 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

Well, I played all of the Novas and I must admit it is a love/hate mech. Not as fast as the other Clan mediums, wide in arms, and it's head is exposed even if You block damage with Your arm. But I love that frog looking 50 ton jumper. Acctualy i run a lot the Nova - A. Changed the 2xPPC to 2xER-LL and it bites like a charm.


That is the main issue with the nova, it is even in it's best config very situational. Many positions on the map are basically restriced to be used because they bear quite a big natural disadvantage. But in CW you need flexibility and a reliable built.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:51 AM

Being a feared Nova pilot is better than being a joke at anything else. It's just comfy to me.





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