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#101 bluepiglet

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 02:26 AM

P2W at its best now. Nova with 12 lasers on the arms and Direwolf with 8 have completely ruined this game.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:21 AM

View Postbluepiglet, on 03 July 2014 - 02:26 AM, said:

P2W at its best now. Nova with 12 lasers on the arms and Direwolf with 8 have completely ruined this game.


You mean the Nova that can fry itself if it fires it's guns just second to fast. The one with probably the greatest weakness to ghostheat. The one with the low slung arms, low podspace, and massive protruding CT and that can lose half or all it's firepower if you take out it's arms ? P2W, WHUT ?

Direwolves are only dangerous if you sit and stare them down, news flash - they are giant walking walls of firepower that can't turn for **** and can barely look up or down. Don't fight them in a tunnel and you will be fine.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:38 AM

Last night I watched a Locust murder a Dire Wolf, their fight was isolated as the battle was winding down and the Dire wolf was a sensible one, (he/she stayed under my Kit Foxes umbrella until I got splashed by a Firestarter (not an ember either), they did get revenge for me because it then drifted into the 'murder zone').

As I watched they attempted to predict and counter the flighty buggers movements but it kept getting round, chewing up arms and rear torso (it was a 3m with about 4 meds). All through this I kept thinking... God I wish there was a way I could stream this right now as a barely 1 mil C bill mech stripped a 'pay to win' clanner down for spare parts...

Now the locust pilot clearly had his head screwed on, but it really does show that scary firepower comes at a scary price!

#104 Zolaz

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 04:41 AM

Hello OP, you should do this thing called reading, it will help you in life. Go the mech section of the forums and look under guides. Get one of the OP IS mechs. Pilot that till you can afford one of the Clan OP mechs. Then you can QQ about how Clan stuff is too hard to use and go back to your OP IS mech.

#105 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 04:46 AM

Wow, another P2W thread... Why didn't you just add to one of the dozens that already exist? Also, this isn't P2W, it's "Pay to support the game and in return get some things sooner than the Freeloaders."

If the ONLY way to get Clan was by paying real world money, then you'd have an argument. But it's not that way so you're just another legged Locust trying to get away. ggclose.

#106 Henree

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 04:53 AM

when will we see clans on one side and IS on the other? I mean we can not have community warfare with mixed teams right? and how will that work for people who affiliate with the clans but have bought mechbays full of IS mechs?

#107 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 05:10 AM

View PostHenri Schoots, on 03 July 2014 - 04:53 AM, said:

when will we see clans on one side and IS on the other? I mean we can not have community warfare with mixed teams right? and how will that work for people who affiliate with the clans but have bought mechbays full of IS mechs?


Soon*

Seriously, it's supposed to be in the "Fall", although as Russ Bullocks says, Fall can mean up to Dec 21. We'll see.

#108 Henree

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 05:12 AM

what? community warfare or clan mechs on one team and is on the other?
balancing is not happening with that in mind if teams are mixed.

is there a link where it is said mechs will be restricted to side?
and if you bought a lot of IS mechs will you have to make a new clan account?
will we be able to transfer mechs between accounts?

or will we be able to play either side? (seems very open to manipulation)

Edited by Henri Schoots, 03 July 2014 - 05:16 AM.


#109 PlzDie

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 05:17 AM

View Postcdlord, on 03 July 2014 - 04:46 AM, said:

Wow, another P2W thread... Why didn't you just add to one of the dozens that already exist? Also, this isn't P2W, it's "Pay to support the game and in return get some things sooner than the Freeloaders."

If the ONLY way to get Clan was by paying real world money, then you'd have an argument. But it's not that way so you're just another legged Locust trying to get away. ggclose.

I like how this word "freeloaders" is now commonly used on these forums, apparently now if somebody did not buy a clan pack, maybe for being burned by PGI in some way, cannot in good conscious justify in spending more money on this game or who knows maybe cannot afford buying into clan packs are all now freeloaders? It is not like this game is F2P.

Maybe all the freeloaders should leave?

At this stage the only way to get clans is for real world money, so until they are available for C-bills then you would have an argument. Yes "ggclose"

#110 bluepiglet

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:04 AM

View Postcdlord, on 03 July 2014 - 04:46 AM, said:

Wow, another P2W thread... Why didn't you just add to one of the dozens that already exist? Also, this isn't P2W, it's "Pay to support the game and in return get some things sooner than the Freeloaders."

If the ONLY way to get Clan was by paying real world money, then you'd have an argument. But it's not that way so you're just another legged Locust trying to get away. ggclose.


Supporters of the game should be rewarded, with something exclusive but not something breaks the game in favour of its users.

While Clan meches in general ain't that overpowered. Certain types do have crazy mount points that IP players cannot dream of. Combined with the already powerful Clan energy weapons, it can become a big red "I WIN" button easily.

#111 Red Plague

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:28 AM

clan mech ... is mech ... i dont care . as long i get to kill some thing i am happy

#112 DjPush

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 07:59 AM

Meh.... I still prefer my IS mechs over clan. Here is why:

1. Ballistic pinpoint damage: easier to snap shot 5, 10 or 20 damage on the move.
2. Cooler energy weapons: IS lasers fire faster, deliver their damage faster and run cooler.
3. Customization: WAY more options with IS mechs to change your mechs fighting abilities.
4. SRM SRM SRM: Ever since the fixed SRMs they have become the IS "Ace in the hole" put 3 SRM backs on any mech and watch componants drop!
3. God mode: people in clan mechs think they are invincible. This makes them careless and too reliant on the power of their weapons.

You wont win them all but you can still **** face in a IS mech. Those "meta" builds that worked against IS mechs wont cut it any more. You. Need to go into the mech lab and make builds that work gor long and short range engagements. That is half the fun of the game. Do t give up and good luck!

#113 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:26 AM

View PostDuppie1974, on 03 July 2014 - 05:17 AM, said:

I like how this word "freeloaders" is now commonly used on these forums, apparently now if somebody did not buy a clan pack, maybe for being burned by PGI in some way, cannot in good conscious justify in spending more money on this game or who knows maybe cannot afford buying into clan packs are all now freeloaders? It is not like this game is F2P.

Maybe all the freeloaders should leave?

At this stage the only way to get clans is for real world money, so until they are available for C-bills then you would have an argument. Yes "ggclose"


As long as I'm accused of P2W, then yes, I'll use Freeloader....

View Postbluepiglet, on 03 July 2014 - 06:04 AM, said:

Supporters of the game should be rewarded, with something exclusive but not something breaks the game in favour of its users.

While Clan meches in general ain't that overpowered. Certain types do have crazy mount points that IP players cannot dream of. Combined with the already powerful Clan energy weapons, it can become a big red "I WIN" button easily.

Where is it said that Clan mechs are exclusive? They will be available for CBills soon enough.

#114 NoClass

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:38 AM

Definitely P2W now. You should uninstall game client immediately.

Edited by VigilanceHawkwind, 03 July 2014 - 08:38 AM.


#115 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

Disagree. Stop trying to face tank Clan mechs and you will see the light. Or absence thereof as you will have less lazors in your face.

#116 Phashe

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:24 AM

I do much better in my IS mediums than my T-wolves. So what does that prove? Nothing! Just like every other post stating "facts" over OP clan mechs. I think PGI did fine. Some needed tweaks will happen. Considering they released 8 new mechs and all new tech, I am happily surprised it as balanced as it is.

6 months from now when everyone has clan mechs, the debate will be a faint memory, and we will see posts about "give the Awesome love" again.

Play on.

#117 Ngamok

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:26 AM

I will go with the forum thread topic consensus and just say P2W just because it's what everybody thinks. I hate to disappoint people with the actual truth.

#118 PlzDie

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:16 AM

View Postcdlord, on 03 July 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:


As long as I'm accused of P2W, then yes, I'll use Freeloader....


Where is it said that Clan mechs are exclusive? They will be available for CBills soon enough.

Never mind I redacted my own post.

Edited by Duppie1974, 03 July 2014 - 01:35 PM.


#119 Beaching Betty

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:19 AM

Im not sure about that :x





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