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[MATRAKA14]

So this is a honest question, i'm not looking for complains about clans op or underpowered is.


I'm only able to find a few reasons to get a catapult:

K2 ac40
A1 srm/lrm boat
A build with a bigger motor
k2 upper energy ears
Torso twist?

Meanwhile the timberwolf has more armour, a more or less equal speed, more hard points (except a1 misiles)

I have never driven a timberwolf so im truly curious about the question, and if its the case, the posible solutions.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Catapult was obsolete before the Clan Invasion. See Cataphract.

[Sug]

Why is this even the choice? Why those 2 mechs?

Edited by Sug, 25 June 2014 - 03:25 PM.

[OneEyed Jack]

65 ton IS mech vs 75 ton Clan mech.

Good comparison.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

A Timberwolf has a 10 ton weight advantage over a Catapult, 75 tons versus 65 tons.

Timberwolf versus Orion is the comparison you're looking for, if you wanted an even weight scale.

[verybad]

Sug, on 25 June 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

Why is this even the choice? Why those 2 mechs?

Both have derpa-pods for missiles?

[MATRAKA14]

I Zeratul I, on 25 June 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

A Timberwolf has a 10 ton weight advantage over a Catapult, 75 tons versus 65 tons.

Thats the point the timberwolf can fit all the catapult builds except the A1 ones and be faster more armored and take extra weapons.

The major part of catapult builds use the xl 300 that is 74.8 kph/82.2 kph the max motor is the xl 315 78.5 kph/86.4 kph. Meanwhile with 10t more the timberwolf has 81.0 kph 89.1 kph.

Armour difference: ct 8, torso 4, arm 8, leg 4

Both of them have JJ

Edited by MATRAKA14, 25 June 2014 - 03:47 PM.

[OneEyed Jack]

MATRAKA14, on 25 June 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Thats the point the timberwolf can fit all the catapult builds except the A1 ones and be faster more armored and take more weapons.

The major part of catapult builds use the xl 300 that is 74.8 kph/82.2 kph the max motor is the xl 315 78.5 kph/86.4 kph. Meanwhile with 10t more the timberwolf has 81.0 kph 89.1 kph.

[Sug]

Just get a TW and load it with JJs, 2xERPPCs, and a Gauss. Only took a week and now that's like all I see.

[Kilo 40]

Yes, the mad cat can do everything a cat can do and then even more. Even it's name implies that.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

MATRAKA14, on 25 June 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Thats the point the timberwolf can fit all the catapult builds except the A1 ones and be faster more armored and take extra weapons.

The major part of catapult builds use the xl 300 that is 74.8 kph/82.2 kph the max motor is the xl 315 78.5 kph/86.4 kph. Meanwhile with 10t more the timberwolf has 81.0 kph 89.1 kph.

Both of them have JJ

Interesting. I never realized how small the armor differences were.

I've used both recently. The Twolf feels much more durable. The Twolf might have vastly superior hitboxes to the Catapult & seems better at spreading damage across its torsos. Maybe the extra kph on Twolf make it more difficult to target.

[CycKath]

I Zeratul I, on 25 June 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

Interesting. I never realized how small the armor differences were.

I've used both recently. The Twolf feels much more durable. The Twolf might have vastly superior hitboxes to the Catapult & seems better at spreading damage across its torsos. Maybe the extra kph on Twolf make it more difficult to target.

The Mad Cat's arms get in the way more IMO.

[Sug]

I Zeratul I, on 25 June 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

The Twolf feels much more durable. The Twolf might have vastly superior hitboxes to the Catapult & seems better at spreading damage across its torsos. Maybe the extra kph on Twolf make it more difficult to target.

All that and can't die from side torso loss.

[Aresye]

Here's my "super secret/stupid simple" CPLT-C1(F) (founders catapult) build, that up until the Clan release was my 2nd best performing mech behind the Victor 9S:

CPLT-C1(F)
3 ER Large
XL315
Jump Jets
22 DHS

That's 27 points of non-FLD damage (if you can keep the lasers focused on one spot the whole time). Just add a calculated level of aggression, smart maneuvering, and good aim, and voila:



Mech Stats:
K/D Ratio: 3.0
W/L Ratio: 1.6
Average Damage (365 Games): 500.20

Skill > Build

[Lyoto Machida]

Pretty sure the Catapult was outdated awhile ago but that didn't stop me from buying a C4 last night for 1/2 off on cbills. Also bought an Atlas K2, HBK-4H and 4J for the lulz.

Aresye, on 25 June 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

Here's my "super secret/stupid simple" CPLT-C1(F) (founders catapult) build, that up until the Clan release was my 2nd best performing mech behind the Victor 9S:

CPLT-C1(F)
3 ER Large
XL315
Jump Jets
22 DHS

That's 27 points of non-FLD damage (if you can keep the lasers focused on one spot the whole time). Just add a calculated level of aggression, smart maneuvering, and good aim, and voila:



Mech Stats:
K/D Ratio: 3.0
W/L Ratio: 1.6
Average Damage (365 Games): 500.20

Skill > Build

I ran that build also...then switched to a jump sniping 2 ERPPC build after. 3 LLs are fun.

[Creovex]

Catapult was ALWAYS a support mech for a lance. Timberwolf is not. Kind of a apples and oranges comparison here....

[Damia Savon]

Catapults rule!

[5th Fedcom Rat]

Damia Savon, on 25 June 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

Catapults rule!

Only if you're the company that manufactures Catapult center torsos.

[3Xtr3m3]

If you can buy THREE (or more) Cats for the price of a single tricked out TimberWolf, then go Cat, otherwise buy Wolf

[Sug]

Aresye, on 25 June 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

Here's my "super secret/stupid simple" CPLT-C1(F) (founders catapult) build, that up until the Clan release was my 2nd best performing mech behind the Victor 9S:

Lyoto Machida, on 25 June 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

I ran that build also...then switched to a jump sniping 2 ERPPC build after. 3 LLs are fun.

Ha. I run that build in my Founders Cat also.