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[Just wanna play]

I say...Give atlas K 4 ams hard Points. One ams shoots down 4 missiles, so it will in total stop 16 missiles, as of right now a 20 ton mech has he same dual ams it has and can stop 8 missiles. In comparison to the Atlas D, the k gives up 1 gun and 1 missile for 1 ams, this IMO is an unfair trade while for the stalker 5s, it just gives up the bonus torso twist of the stalker f. The dual ams locust only gives up a single energy hard point over another locust for a 2nd ams hard point. Then you have the DDC, it gave up two ct mounted energy hard points for a missile launcher and ecm. This is why the most expensive mech in the game is considered the worst of its variants, its more of a down grade then a variant

I actually think maybe give RS and D dual ams them selves.

Any thoughts guys?

Edited by Just wanna play, 27 June 2014 - 08:56 AM.

[Spheroid]

Too much work for the devs. Just add a forth module and run both AMS upgrades.

[Just wanna play]

Fourth and third wouldn't it be? Either way besides the point, atlas k got cheated (and so did the stalker 4n)

Edited by Just wanna play, 27 June 2014 - 08:33 AM.

[CygnusX7]

This is getting old. We need a forum nerf.

[Just wanna play]

All im saying is give mechs like the atlas k and stalker 4n a lil something something

People have been saying this for a long time for a reason, this is just a suggestion

Edited by Just wanna play, 27 June 2014 - 08:43 AM.

[DONTOR]

If you just build it right it is good. Doesnt need any buffs.
2PPC
1AC20
2MLs(CT)
2AMS
STD 340
the rest to DHS and your done.

[Just wanna play]

Are you saying you prefer the k over the others? i know it can be good, but that doesn't mean it isn't a badly balanced variant (same with stalker 4n, i loved it but still no point to it)

Edited by Just wanna play, 27 June 2014 - 11:16 AM.

[Deathlike]

A missile hardpoint would probably for sufficient for the Atlas-K. The problem is that it is a simply worse Atlas-D. I wouldn't rule out a ballistic hardpoint though...

Other options include giving it the Stalker-3F treatment (increasing its torso twist significantly).

The Stalker-4N... feels like a mediocre placeholder. Giving it the Stalker-3F treatment would probably be good enough (it's almost a 3F clone minus the extra missile hardpoint anyways).

[Just wanna play]

I feel like there should be a little more variety though, difference between variants being a single hrdpoint seems a little lacking when it comes to diversity...trading a gun for an ams hardpoint still feels kind of lousy unless you KNOW that gun is just 1 ac/20 and you rather have dual ams (vs and atlas d)
and the stalker 4n IS a mediocre place holder, its the only one that doesn't have a missile hard point in each arm, and it doesn't have anything going for it as the reason. IT has no uniqueness at all

[CygnusX7]

I suggest finding its strengths and use them.

Twin AMS, 4 energy HP's and without a missile rack on it you can run a 350std with 17 heatsinks.
STD350 (62.4kph) AC20, 2LL, 2mL, AMSx2, 4 tons of AC20 ammo, 2 tons of AMS ammo, 592 armor.

Edited by CygnusX7, 27 June 2014 - 12:11 PM.

[Wolfways]

Just wanna play, on 27 June 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

I feel like there should be a little more variety though,

Customization giveth, and customization taketh away

[Sable]

Quad AMS would be hilarious on the Atlas K.

[Hollow Earth]

Energy hardpoint on the right eye which is capable of mounting an ER-PPC.

[El Bandito]

Take away a module from the D-DC and give it to the K. That way D-DC is slightly brought in line and K is buffed.

Edited by El Bandito, 27 June 2014 - 12:40 PM.

[Cest7]

6 Energy hardpoints

[Just wanna play]

^ hard points would make it a boars head with a 2nd ams though

Just so you guys know i didn't just get a k think it sucked and made a thread on buffs it needs, i just made a thread about a possible solution to the ks "4n syndrome" because its always been underwhelming, this can not really be denied

Fixed this statement

Sable, on 27 June 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Quad AMS would be *glorious* on the Atlas K.

Edited by Just wanna play, 28 June 2014 - 07:12 AM.

[Mavairo]

The Fatlas K is so terrible I never field it, even when we need more AMS.

Give it 4 missile hardpoints so it can carry an SRM 24. I think that'd be the ticket.

Edited by Mavairo, 28 June 2014 - 07:08 AM.

[Just wanna play]

So then it would be giving up a gun for 2 missiles and an ams hard point? (in comparision to the D) Idk, that might make the D the new "4n down syndrome" fatlas, how about 3 gun hard points instead(3 ac/5s, ran it on both hbk and banshee)? :3 So then there is a slightly energy focused one (rs), missile focused one (ddc), and gun focused one (k)

Edited by Just wanna play, 28 June 2014 - 07:20 AM.

[CyborgDragon]

Quad AMS would be amazing I would buy my K back for that! Only bought it while I was leveling Fatlases so I could have another XL 300. Or perhaps a few more torso-mounted energy points.

[Just wanna play]

Come on pgi just make it happen, quad ams on the atlas k to make it worth the 13k charged for it. Now what can we think of to make the stalker 4 worth it..... perhaps quad ams as well?