Is Mm Working?
#21
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:09 PM
But despite what looks like a well functioning, hugely complicated matchmaking system people need something to complain about, right?
#22
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:11 PM
The Ripper13, on 02 July 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:
But despite what looks like a well functioning, hugely complicated matchmaking system people need something to complain about, right?
Hadn't you heard? People are losing games. People ONLY lose games in MWO when the MM stacks the teams against them, so it can't possibly be working properly. Dolt.
#23
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:13 PM
We lost very badly...
#25
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:14 PM
krash27, on 02 July 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:
We lost very badly...
Not against "all pugs." They were thrown up against various teams...not all PuGs. Sorry you guys lost.
If you WERE all solo drops, then post a ticket. That shouldn't happen.
Edited by Ghost Badger, 02 July 2014 - 12:15 PM.
#26
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:14 PM
krash27, on 02 July 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:
We lost very badly...
That shouldn't be possible. Were you solo dropping?
If so make sure you are reporting in feedback.
#27
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:19 PM
Either way really can't be bothered to play these matches , It just feels wrong when you see ECM , JJ and LRM heavy teams appear.
Yet our team had virtually none of the above, almost like our PUG was up against a 12 man pre-made or combination of pre-mades in the other team! Very unimpressed right now.
#28
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:20 PM
ztac, on 02 July 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:
Either way really can't be bothered to play these matches , It just feels wrong when you see ECM , JJ and LRM heavy teams appear.
Yet our team had virtually none of the above, almost like our PUG was up against a 12 man pre-made or combination of pre-mades in the other team! Very unimpressed right now.
the MM is not matching by loadout, you are purely speculating just because you lost a match...
#29
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:21 PM
#30
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:21 PM
stjobe, on 02 July 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:
Maybe it's the sum of the difference of the respective Elos? So that means it's like a 1400 Elo team fighting a 1500 Elo team.
#32
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:23 PM
Heffay, on 02 July 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:
Maybe it's the sum of the difference of the respective Elos? So that means it's like a 1400 Elo team fighting a 1500 Elo team.
Variance means "difference." I'm guessing the screens we see of the "team ELO" are the averages, while the "variance" is the difference between the individual highest and lowest ELO in a match.
This is why matching via AVERAGES doesn't actually get you equally skilled players.
#33
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:24 PM
Nicholas Carlyle, on 02 July 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:
If so make sure you are reporting in feedback.
Most likely it was a small group saying they had 10 people to scare the other team.
Information warfare is alive and well, I see.
#34
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:24 PM
Bilbo, on 02 July 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:
I meant "That happened before, too, so why are you complaining." Plus it's weight-class restricted, yeah. So, it should be EASIER for that person.
#35
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:27 PM
Ghost Badger, on 02 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:
Variance means "difference." I'm guessing the screens we see of the "team ELO" are the averages, while the "variance" is the difference between the individual highest and lowest ELO in a match.
This is why matching via AVERAGES doesn't actually get you equally skilled players.
I don't think it's the variance within the match. The two numbers represent the variance for each team. one team apparently has a very high Elo player and a tanked smurf account, while the other teams players are much closer in Elo. The averaged team Elos are shown and the are pretty close.
#36
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:28 PM
Ghost Badger, on 02 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:
Variance means "difference." I'm guessing the screens we see of the "team ELO" are the averages, while the "variance" is the difference between the individual highest and lowest ELO in a match.
I think you're right. The team Elo differences seem reasonably close according to the pics, but obviously they are pulling people from different buckets. It may be the safety valve in action.
I see some team Elo average in the 600-800 range. That really blows my mind!
edit: Or as mentioned a 2 man group with a pro & tanked account. 2500 difference is too high to be an accident. There is no way that just randomly happened.
Edited by Heffay, 02 July 2014 - 12:30 PM.
#37
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:29 PM
#38
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:37 PM
stjobe, on 02 July 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:
You realize variance is the square of the deviation from the mean right?
#39
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:46 PM
Nicholas Carlyle, on 02 July 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:
That shouldn't be possible. Were you solo dropping?
If so make sure you are reporting in feedback.
Oh ya I solo dropped. I also submitted a ticket. I refuse to start a thread about such issues as the tryhards will just flame me anyways.
Just posted here as a funny story. Balance is still out to lunch
Heffay, on 02 July 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:
Most likely it was a small group saying they had 10 people to scare the other team.
Information warfare is alive and well, I see.
Ya I recognized a lot of the names, and I believe them. You assume a lot when you were not in the game. Or maybe you are just one of those tryhards, "nothing to see here, move a long"
At least the team I was up against realized the ridiculous nature of it and didn't try to justify it.
#40
Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:47 PM
krash27, on 02 July 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:
Just posted here as a funny story. Balance is still out to lunch
Ya I recognized a lot of the names, and I believe them. You assume a lot when you were not in the game. Or maybe you are just one of those tryhards, "nothing to see here, move a long"
At least the team I was up against realized the ridiculous nature of it and didn't try to justify it.
Should have taken a screenshot of the scoreboard. Would make it easier to believe you.
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