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[Sylvian Le Fabre]

Hey,

Marmor and I started to figure out the Clan Hitboxes. We used IS SPL.
Due to the fact, that it takes time to search and color the hitboxes, we just have 2 Mechs. The others will follow. But feel free to start aswell

Facts:

• AMS is part of the side torso. (KitFox). So if you shoot on one of the triple AMS at the KitFox-C Arm it will count as a Sidetoros hit. (verification pls).

Warhawk

Stormcrow



KitFox

Edited by Sylvian Le Fabre, 09 July 2014 - 10:56 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Nice work.

Your Warhawk front pelvis seems a bit messy though

[Sylvian Le Fabre]

Yep you are right. Was the first part i started. I try to fix it a bit, but currently i'm tired.

€ May also interesting:




Targeting Computer, compared. Fact is also, that the increase is changing from 4 to 5. Only 75% of the Value before.

Edited by Sylvian Le Fabre, 04 July 2014 - 11:45 AM.

[SirLankyIII]

Very nice, but one consideration. You might want to use different colours on the arms and torsos, they all look like the same colour since I'm colour blind, it might pay to use a similar colour scheme as was used on the inner sphere hit boxes.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Its pretty stupid how the gyro counts as the CT at all. It should be split down the middle, half n half RL and LL....

And the AMS counts in the hitbox? Thats derpy.

But good work, I have been wanting pictures of clan hitboxes. Nicely done.

Warhawk CT isnt as bad as I thought.

[Escef]

LordKnightFandragon, on 04 July 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Its pretty stupid how the gyro counts as the CT at all. It should be split down the middle, half n half RL and LL....

The gyro is an internal mechanism, and is not part of the legs.

LordKnightFandragon, on 04 July 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

And the AMS counts in the hitbox? Thats derpy.

It's derpy? Is it, or is it not, part of the mech? By this logic, weapon barrels should not be part of hitboxes, either.

[Sylvian Le Fabre]

Suggestions for the Colors?

[LordKnightFandragon]

Escef, on 04 July 2014 - 11:52 PM, said:

The gyro is an internal mechanism, and is not part of the legs.


It's derpy? Is it, or is it not, part of the mech? By this logic, weapon barrels should not be part of hitboxes, either.

Its not part of the CT either. shooting the gyro would be like shooting a person in the pelvis...would affect their walking ability more then their chest area.

It would seem that shooting the AMS would break the AMS not the torso..its an external item sitting above the entire mech. Only if it ammo popped would it cause any damage..and Clan mechs have built in case.

[Escef]

LordKnightFandragon, on 05 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

Its not part of the CT either. shooting the gyro would be like shooting a person in the pelvis...would affect their walking ability more then their chest area.

The gyro is INTERNAL, you can't shoot it at all. Do you even know what a gyro is? And, yes, the gyro absolutely is a part of the CT. It's a bunch of sensors and large spinning wheels with breaking mechanisms, designed to harness the momentum of the spinning wheels to stabilize the mech. You don't shoot the gyro in this game, you can't see it. Tell me where on the mech's exterior do you see the gyro?

LordKnightFandragon, on 05 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

It would seem that shooting the AMS would break the AMS not the torso..its an external item sitting above the entire mech. Only if it ammo popped would it cause any damage..and Clan mechs have built in case.

That would require the game allowing you to target specific weapons for destruction. The game does not support this.

Edited by Escef, 05 July 2014 - 02:25 AM.

[TheTriforceKid]

WHoa, whoa, WHOA! Are you shittin' me? THe Warhawk Hitbox is like, one ******' pixel!

You gotta feel like Luke Skywalker sending missiles down a 2 meter shaft into the Death Star to get a headshot like that!

[Jalthibuster]

Wow...Storm Crows side Torso is almost impossible to hit from the side ...either arms or ct.

[Hamish McPiton]

Jalthibuster, on 06 July 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

Wow...Storm Crows side Torso is almost impossible to hit from the side ...either arms or ct.

Shoot it in the nose - no matter what

[Ultimax]

Good work, I look forward to future updates.

I've not done this kind of testing, but perhaps the clan ER LLAS will be helpful with it's very long 1.5s beam allowing you to drag it across different parts of a mech in one go.

It might help the speed of the process.


Thanks for putting this together.

[Sylvian Le Fabre]

Yeah, i will do the KitFox next. Should be done by this week. Than i have exams, and we will see .
And i will consider the idea of a long burning Laser, vs a Small Pulse. Currently PGI is at least using "logical" straight lines for the Center/Side torso transition.

€ Still no suggestion what colors i should use?

Edited by Sylvian Le Fabre, 07 July 2014 - 01:45 PM.

[Sylvian Le Fabre]

Kit Fox added

[Alaskan Nobody]

Commenting to make following this easier ('cause I'm feeling lazy today)

[BafGandalf]

Nice Work!

We appreciate your passion on this.

[Marmor]

i am such a good model...

nice work

[Gasoline]

Now I know why the Kit Fox is so easily ST cored. Those ST are huge...

Edit: Great job on this, please keep that up, it's really interesting.

Edited by Gasoline, 09 July 2014 - 08:31 PM.

[Sylvian Le Fabre]

It is also interesting, that the KitFox is the first modell, in which the sidetorso take over the part of the lags at the gyro.

So no blue at the eggs

+ If you build on the triple AMS, that is mounted on the arm. It counts as side torso hit, if someone shoot at it.

Edited by Sylvian Le Fabre, 10 July 2014 - 01:43 AM.