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[Gayang3]

Here's an idea. Make destructible environments. Like what pretty much every other game has nowadays.

It would be so much fun to blast away a building/cover or see a building collapse on an enemy hiding behind it.

How about blowing out a bridge or an rock overpass with enemy mechs on it and have them all get leg damaged (or legged)

How about being able to block off a tunnel exit by shooting on the ceiling (and also being able to blast open a way from inside)

How about being able to shoot out a ledge of snow and have that cascade in to an avalanche that will send mechs tumbling.

So many options, so much more dynamism, so much more fun.

[Willard Phule]

Oh, yes! Let's have this before Community Warfare or a Matchmaker in the public queue that actually works.

[Triskelion]

Brought to you by cryengine 3.

[Gayang3]

Willard Phule, on 07 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Oh, yes! Let's have this before Community Warfare or a Matchmaker in the public queue that actually works.

Why do you assume that I asked for it NOW before everything else?

[Thejuggla]

I'd like to see some of stuff mentioned but I doubt most of that will make it. I am however hoping the destructible environment is why we haven't seen a new map in forever.

[Gayang3]

Thejuggla, on 07 July 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'd like to see some of stuff mentioned but I doubt most of that will make it. I am however hoping the destructible environment is why we haven't seen a new map in forever.

As in, they are working on destructible environments and thats why we haven't seen any new maps?

[Willard Phule]

Gayang3, on 07 July 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:

Why do you assume that I asked for it NOW before everything else?

I didn't.

I said they should drop everything in favor of it.

I'm always for PGI doing something other than what they've planned to do. Like community warfare and unit creation.

[EyeOne]

Destructible buildings is something I never want to see in this game. At least not fully. Cosmetic damage would be just fine but please let's not do full destructibility.

Why? Because using a building as cover is vital in a light/medium mech. Suddenly your cover can be blown up then we see "100% Assault" in the queue, everyone levels every building as soon as we start and it's boring slug fest. What I just described was a typical game of MechAssault. It was horrifically boring.

It's a game. Not reality. It has rules like "This is cover" and "This is not". And generally it works better that way. I've said it for a long time but destructible buildings in Battlefield are cool but I don't think it makes the game better. Just one man's unpopular opinion.

However, trees? Yeah, let's get those falling down please.

[Gayang3]

Willard Phule, on 07 July 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

I didn't.

I said they should drop everything in favor of it.

I'm always for PGI doing something other than what they've planned to do. Like community warfare and unit creation.

[Rhaythe]

Level-ution me!!

(no, not really)

[Gas Guzzler]

Willard Phule, on 07 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Oh, yes! Let's have this before Community Warfare or a Matchmaker in the public queue that actually works.

What's wrong with the matchmaker?

[Willard Phule]

Gayang3, on 07 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Oh, absolutely serious.

I like watching PGI fail. In fact, I've gotten so used to it, I actually have wagers going as to how badly broke the next "whatever" they release will be.

It's not that I want to see the world burn....just a tiny little corner of Canada is good by me.

[Gayang3]

EyeOne, on 07 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Destructible buildings is something I never want to see in this game. At least not fully. Cosmetic damage would be just fine but please let's not do full destructibility.

Why? Because using a building as cover is vital in a light/medium mech. Suddenly your cover can be blown up then we see "100% Assault" in the queue, everyone levels every building as soon as we start and it's boring slug fest. What I just described was a typical game of MechAssault. It was horrifically boring.

It's a game. Not reality. It has rules like "This is cover" and "This is not". And generally it works better that way. I've said it for a long time but destructible buildings in Battlefield are cool but I don't think it makes the game better. Just one man's unpopular opinion.

However, trees? Yeah, let's get those falling down please.

For a light even the smoldering wreck of a collapsed building should provide enough cover. And with ammo limitations and some reasonable "hit points for buildings, terrain" taking down a building should be a significant investment. And hence would add another tactical dimension to the game. Imagine being able to trap a lance inside a tunnel and then targeting the others while the trapped lance blasts their way out of the blockage.

[zhajin]

they already have destructible environments. there is a tree some where I dont remember, and a lamp post some where else...


overall probably never going to happen. there is a chance though if we are still here in 5-10 years.

[BARBAR0SSA]

OP this is a lot of work and I do believe it's on a To Do at some point list, crytek engine definitely supports it....however CryTek may no longer be around, they are in a whole heap of financial trouble.

Willard Phule, on 07 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Oh, yes! Let's have this before Community Warfare or a Matchmaker in the public queue that actually works.

What's wrong with MM, it's been pretty damn good about matching tonnage, had quite a bit more intelligent battles lately as well.

EyeOne, on 07 July 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Destructible buildings is something I never want to see in this game. At least not fully. Cosmetic damage would be just fine but please let's not do full destructibility.

Why? Because using a building as cover is vital in a light/medium mech. Suddenly your cover can be blown up then we see "100% Assault" in the queue, everyone levels every building as soon as we start and it's boring slug fest. What I just described was a typical game of MechAssault. It was horrifically boring.

It's a game. Not reality. It has rules like "This is cover" and "This is not". And generally it works better that way. I've said it for a long time but destructible buildings in Battlefield are cool but I don't think it makes the game better. Just one man's unpopular opinion.

However, trees? Yeah, let's get those falling down please.

Buildings DO have rubble, so just have them collapse and show maybe part of the upper torso of an atlas, or make it so that the buildings take quite a bit of damage, if someone wants to blow Gauss rounds or build up some heat shooting it down, go ahead.

Edited by shad0w4life, 07 July 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[SgtMagor]

Mech assault had destructible enviroments. it certainly added another dimension to game play. I mean there is supposedly enough fire power on an Atlas to destroy a whole city right!!!

[EyeOne]

Gayang3, on 07 July 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

And hence would add another tactical dimension to the game.

In my opinion it would reduce all tactics to "Destroy the buildings".

Gayang3, on 07 July 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

Imagine being able to trap a lance inside a tunnel and then targeting the others while the trapped lance blasts their way out of the blockage.

That doesn't interest me in the slightest.

[Gayang3]

EyeOne, on 07 July 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

In my opinion it would reduce all tactics to "Destroy the buildings".




That doesn't interest me in the slightest.

Sigh... this is where we agree to disagree I guess

[JP Josh]

EyeOne, on 07 July 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

In my opinion it would reduce all tactics to "Destroy the buildings".




That doesn't interest me in the slightest.

i would just load my splat cat up and well lets just say tunnel collapses can be very harsh instead of trapping you get buried.

[Archon]

There really should be some destructibility. Not having it is immersion breaking and every prior Mechwarrior game allowed you to destroy buildings. Hell, why isn't my mech armored with whatever they put on those buildings? Even the tiny little cars that should be crushed into smithereens when I step on them are indestructible.