13 replies to this topic

[Devilsfury]

Why is it that PGI does not want you to tell where DC mechs or hiding powered down mechs location? I can understand if the game is really close or you have a chance to win. I have done it several times in conquest with a good points lead. I dont get it when its skirmish and there is still 10 minutes left in the game and some ****** hides. All you are doing is making people sit for 10 minutes while everyone runs around trying to find you. YOU should be the one reported and/or banned, not the people who tell where you are hiding. Holding the other 23 peoples mechs hostage for 10 minutes is just lame. Thoughts??

[Bilbo]

Play a mode that allows for a different mode of victory. Otherwise, suck it up and hunt them down or wait, depending on your situation.

[Kitane]

Powering down in a remote location just to lengthen the duration of already lost match (not when fighting for Conquest resource points) used to be against rules.

Did it change again?

[poopenshire]

its not against the rules, I have been on teams that won Assault matches that way.

[Bilbo]

Kitane, on 08 July 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Powering down in a remote location just to lengthen the duration of already lost match (not when fighting for Conquest resource points) used to be against rules.

Did it change again?

It's only against the rules if you never actively participated in the match. It's always against the rules to narc on your teammates location.

[Devilsfury]

I agree that there is nothing wrong with it IF you have a chance at winning. Its when the game is 11-2 or so and the guy runs off to hide during Skirmish. ** By the way, I bring this up because people immediately start crying if someone gives their position away, crying they are going to report you...blah blah blah

[FlipOver]

The major issue is this game is alll about the C-Bills/XP and the grind behind it.

That's why most people want to get their 'mech unlocked so they can jump on another match asap.

As Bilbo stated, Skirmish isn't the mode for those people. Conquest or Assault have alternative ways of finishing, play those if you are in a hurry.

But if you play this game also for the fun and strategy of it (as much as it can have for the moment) then you also play Skirmish and embrace the "hunt" of a hidden strangler as part of it, using the team chat to report findings or clear areas.

Reporting on a team-mates position to the enemy is treason, aka against the rules, unless they are DC on a Skirmish mode match and the score isn't 11-11.

[Bilbo]

Devilsfury, on 08 July 2014 - 08:41 AM, said:

I agree that there is nothing wrong with it IF you have a chance at winning. Its when the game is 11-2 or so and the guy runs off to hide during Skirmish. ** By the way, I bring this up because people immediately start crying if someone gives their position away, crying they are going to report you...blah blah blah

They are going to report you because it is, in fact, against the rules to give away their position. It is their duty to participate in the match, not to provide the other team with the last kill to shorten it.

[Bigbacon]

two different things though..

DC (I assume disconnects) should be removed from play when they disconnect (or don't even connect).

power down folk, they are technically still live players who could fight if they wanted but won't. Can't necessarily penalize them. Assault is a good example of where doing so can actually win the day.

Is it annoying? Yes. but so what, disco yourself, pick another mech, play another round and your other mech will be waiting for you afterwards.

though, I'd rather hte power down folks just rush into the enemy, do some damage and die in a glorious ball of fire or do what I do against insurmountable odds, run in, power down and just get it over with.

Edited by Bigbacon, 08 July 2014 - 08:51 AM.

[Bobzilla]

It is against the rules to willfully: disconnect during a match, suicide (by OOB or overhead) and persistant non-participation in core game mechanics.

So, shutting down and hiding if you can win by points on conquest is ok, even in your base on assault, otherwise, it's non-participation. Really even then it is debatable if you are actually participating.

You can never give a friendly location away.

It doesn't say anything about all remaining players agreeing on a slight rule diviation needed to conclude the match faster due to unfortunate situations tho.

Edited by Bobzilla, 08 July 2014 - 09:03 AM.

[Devilsfury]

Bilbo, on 08 July 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

They are going to report you because it is, in fact, against the rules to give away their position. It is their duty to participate in the match, not to provide the other team with the last kill to shorten it.

So you are fine with the game literally being over and the guy hiding for 10+ minutes? I know we can DC and pick another mech but 23 other people should not have to do that because of one person. Like I said, conquest or assault your team can still win. In skirmish, its complete bullcrap people doing that.

Im with BigBacon, just die and get it over with. Why prolong the lost match?

Edited by Devilsfury, 08 July 2014 - 09:05 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

If the mech is powered down with no chance of winning (IE, no weapons/ammo or will be killed by harsh language) then I will give the coordinates (top left after hitting F9) and report the player for griefing. Especially if they are chatting and saying stupid stuff like enjoy waiting etc....

[Bilbo]

Devilsfury, on 08 July 2014 - 09:04 AM, said:

So you are fine with the game literally being over and the guy hiding for 10+ minutes? I know we can DC and pick another mech but 23 other people should not have to do that because of one person. Like I said, conquest or assault your team can still win. In skirmish, its complete bullcrap people doing that.

Im with BigBacon, just die and get it over with. Why prolong the lost match?

Yes I am fine with it, especially in the case you just gave. If the ten players left can't cover the map and find the last guy in a reasonable amount of time, I have no sympathy for them.

[Egomane]

Closing this thread for, discussing and promoting violations of the griefing rules.

Those rules are an essential part of MWO. They are not suggestions, but the law!