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#1 Eldane

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

So my old...http://www.amazon.co...ywords=8800+gtx Has finally died and i need a replacement.

I'm looking at this... http://www.amazon.co.../ref=pd_cp_pc_2 and would like to know if it would be a comparable card for MWO, preferably an upgrade, even if not a big one lol

Should I maybe spend a bit more and go for something beefier?

Thoughts?

#2 JimLahey

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:40 PM

Budget?

#3 Deathlike

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:45 PM

I suggest aiming for a 2GB card if you plan on using any of the Anti-Aliasing modes.

Ultra High already gets my card (GTX650) to ~1GB or so on some maps (with many of the other settings on low, with the exception of shaders and detail quality).

Running the game @ 1600x900 for reference.

Edited by Deathlike, 04 July 2014 - 02:46 PM.


#4 Eldane

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:47 PM

Well i'm hoping to spend between $100-200, but i'm hoping I can spend about $100 to get something that will be as good or a bit better than my old card...If closer to $200 would get me a significant upgrade I might go that route.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:51 PM

$199.99 shipped 4GB VRAM

http://www.newegg.co...049&ignorebbr=1

Edited by spjMrLahey, 04 July 2014 - 02:51 PM.


#6 Eldane

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:53 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 04 July 2014 - 02:45 PM, said:

I suggest aiming for a 2GB card if you plan on using any of the Anti-Aliasing modes.

Ultra High already gets my card (GTX650) to ~1GB or so on some maps (with many of the other settings on low, with the exception of shaders and detail quality).

Running the game @ 1600x900 for reference.


I could bust out a bit more and get something like this... http://www.amazon.co...rds=video+cards

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:59 PM

Well, just understand that the CPU is what drives this game more... the video card does have an impact, but not as big as the CPU.

Although... from the 8800GTX... whatever you get now is MUCH BETTER.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125510 - cheapest
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487025 - personal eVGA bias/preference Ti edition
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487024 - overclocked (Ti)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487028 - better cooling I guess (Ti)

Whatever works for you is up to you.

I don't think you'll really want to have a 4GB Video Card when it is the mainstream/midrange card... if you were going faster, then it would make sense IMO.

750 consumes less watts than the PCI-E bus would provide (75W PCI-E, 60W for the 750Ti according to Wiki).
760 and greater is where the real power is at... so 4GB of video memory is overkill IMO.

Also, the 750 should be a lot more cooler (aka less watts, less generated heat) than the 760 (depends on your case if you do/do not have adequate cooling).

Edited by Deathlike, 04 July 2014 - 03:05 PM.


#8 Eldane

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:05 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 04 July 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Well, just understand that the CPU is what drives this game more... the video card does have an impact, but not as big as the CPU.

Although... from the 8800GTX... whatever you get now is MUCH BETTER.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125510 - cheapest
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487025 - personal eVGA bias/preference
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487024 - overclocked
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487028 - better cooling I guess

Whatever works for you is up to you.

I don't think you'll really want to have a 4GB Video Card when it is the mainstream/midrange card... if you were going faster, then it would make sense IMO.


Looks like I can get that second card on amazon for pretty much the same price...that could work out well for me...Thanks!

#9 ninjitsu

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

Personally, I'd go for something with at least 256 bit memory bandwidth. I've never been that impressed with the 128 bit cards. That's my opinion anyways.

I bought a used radeon 6950 on ebay for $80. You can find some good deals on ebay, look for the ones that guarantee against DOA's

#10 Odins Fist

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:26 PM

View Postninjitsu, on 04 July 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

Personally, I'd go for something with at least 256 bit memory bandwidth. I've never been that impressed with the 128 bit cards.


"THIS".. ^^^^^

Absolutely spot on, 128 bit memory interface is not recommended at all.

Also, when you look at brand new/unused Video Cards, usually anything in the sub $200.00 range is going to be a disappointment.

The reason..?? A "budget" video card is always going to perform like a budget videro card, that is the reality of it.

Anything in the $300.00 to $350.00 dollar range will NOT leave you wanting.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130946

Personmally if "I" were buying a brand new card, I would not go lower then the GTX 770 2gb card, and I would recommend the GTX 770 4gb card if wanting to go to a triple monitor setup in the future, and picking up a second GTX 770 4gb card for SLI to run thhat triple monitor setup, i'm pretty sure MWO will officially support SLI within 6 months from now.

If you can wait a couple of more paychecks DO NOT buy a budget video card in the $100.00 to $200.00 dollar range, you will be happy you waited.

Make sure you have the PSU to run the card.

Edited by Odins Fist, 04 July 2014 - 05:27 PM.


#11 Goose

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:40 PM

Wait a week to see what Tom's monthly update says.

#12 Avenger762

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:11 PM

All you need is Tom's Hardware and this monthly article:

http://www.tomshardw...eview,3107.html

You're welcome.

#13 Goose

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:21 PM

This months' ain't up yet, Mr. Astute. :D

#14 Smokeyjedi

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:40 PM

Indeed, 2+GB VRAM,and 256bit memory link minimum will get you to the promise land.

#15 Barbaric Soul

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:51 AM

The OP was running a 8800gtx 768mb card. People, that card is 8 generations old. With that, I'm going to assume at best, the OP has a C2Q Q9650/P45 system. A GTX 770 would be bottlenecked so bad by that system, that he would never get all the performance that card is capable of. The OP should not get anything better than the GTX 750ti to use in that system. Anything more would be a waste.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

View PostBarbaric Soul, on 05 July 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

I'm going to assume at best, the OP has a C2Q Q9650/P45 system. A GTX 770 would be bottlenecked so bad by that system, that he would never get all the performance that card is capable of. The OP should not get anything better than the GTX 750ti to use in that system. Anything more would be a waste.


WELL if his system is as old as that, then that's a shame if he expects to play MWO at high settings with good frame rates.. I'm suspecting he will get around 50 with nothing going on match load in, and around 30-ish when fighting starts.

I would have to ask around here and see who is running a Yorkfield Core-2 Quad, and see what they are getting.

I wonder if the OP would mind posting his system specs.

On a side note, I really don't like 128bit interface and GPUs powered by the PCI-e slot, they have been measured and they have been found wanting.

I realize an older system will get a bottleneck and that a PCI-e 3.0 card will not perform to it's full potential on a PCI-e 1 slot, that's a no brainer, but I still don't like the 750, but it's a really decent budget HTPC card, pulling about 40 watts. The 750 ti with 2gb of Vram looks ok on paper (sort of) and I guess that is the route he will have to go. I doubt he has the PSU to run anything much better.

MWO is tough on system due to MWO being in it's current state of optimization (or lack of).

A budget card on an old system is little more then a bandaid, but I wish the OP all the luck in the world.

I think we both know what he needs to do if he wants to play at much higher settings with higher Frames Per Second, it's the reality of MWO at the moment.

Edited by Odins Fist, 05 July 2014 - 01:28 PM.


#17 Eldane

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

Quick update: The gtx 750ti is working great so far...I was able to up some of my settings even and am still running better fps than before, so it looks like i got exactly what I wanted woohoo

It'll probably take me a day or two to get everything set just right for me but no complaints so far.

Edited by Eldane, 05 July 2014 - 06:37 PM.


#18 Odins Fist

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

I'm glad you are happy with what you decided to get.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 02:10 PM

While I prefer more power like the GTX760 and above, case cooling is a greater consideration for me. So, going GTX750Ti is still pretty good, while not going to be the overheating disaster that was with the GTX260 I had... I'm running the GTX650 now and it's running better and cooler than what I had before...

Edited by Deathlike, 06 July 2014 - 02:12 PM.


#20 Voodoomancer

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 02:23 PM

Eldane,

Just out of interest: what is your CPU/memory setup?





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