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[Joseph Mallan]

This isn't a rant, only a statement. My first two matches last night ended in just over 3 minutes! I haven't experienced that much raw power in a very long time. Although shocking, I missed facing enemies who could roll my side that easily.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 13 July 2014 - 12:09 PM.

[Karamarka]

ztac, on 12 July 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Seriously believe me when I say that the solo queue is not ok. This is down to the MM being kind of rubbish.
It ma be ok for those that win 12-0 , but certainly not for those that lose 12-0 , (allways be winner and losers, but it is how much you lose by that counts really).

If the matchmaker was any good matches would be quite close , but they are not on a regular basis. You may if you are lucky get what I'd call a good match (around 12-7 upward). with the disparity in the scores there is an indication that something is very wrong.

Agreed, it seems every other game i have some new players on my team who suicide or have no idea what is going on. I'l pull 750+dmg and we still get owned, the problem that makes stomping EXTRA possible is that 1 team has new players and the other team doesn't. The Elo matchmaker can't distinguish between a new player and an average player because they both have the same Elo (New players start in the middle) so one team will get the newbies and get roflstomped.

Edited by Karamarka, 13 July 2014 - 12:28 PM.

[Voidcrafter]

Roland, on 13 July 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

No, it doesn't happen with anywhere close to that regularity. You are wrong.

Let we get it straight - you're saying that you know what I do experience better tham myself or you're trying to express your beliefs that I am lying?
If it's the second one - what's the point of all that fair?
And btw - I rarely post or/and comment something - I do so only when I really feel necessary - so if you have something to say - say it.
As mine experience is my own - the same counts for you - there're people here who said they've experienced the same(either way) - I will kindly ask you to either post something with value to the topic or shut up and read/comment something else, because I am holding myself to return you the favour of bad temper you had toward me from the start.
So best case scenario for both of us - move on and never return here.

As for the Q-question - played ~30 matches the last two days - only solo - seems more than fine for me(except 2 games - but it was all my fault) - which makes me wonder about something else -
if you're doing really good in solo - which is completely different experience from our current group queue - and get your ELO rating high... How does that effect the group queue - which, as noted, is a completely different experience?
Shouldn't those two be separated?
Cause - hell - I had(claimed by people who grouped with me and felt the difference in the game difficulty) quite high ELO before this patch - I don't know anything about ELO reset(or I can't recall good enough any) - could that be my issue too?
And IF there are MM changes, that implement that much change to the way the MM works - shouldn't be there any ELO resets too?
Yea - if so - probably it would take some time for the ratings to adjust again and start putting you where you belong into - not quite pleasant process - but 3/4 days probs. and would be fine.
Either way - in the current queue state - separating solo from group ELO rating, as the matchmaking is made, probably wouldn't be that bad idea(though would probably cause what I'm experiencing with the group queue currently at the begining).

[Roland]

Voidcrafter, on 13 July 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

Let we get it straight - you're saying that you know what I do experience better tham myself or you're trying to express your beliefs that I am lying?

Yes, when you say that you are fighting against full teams 70-80% of the time when playing as a group of 2, then you are either mistaken or you are lying.

Most likely, I think you're just mistaken... But the fact is that what you believe is happening isn't even remotely close to being within the realm of possibility from a purely statistical perspective.

If you believe it actually is happening, then make a video showing multiple matches in a row, showing how you are consistently getting put on teams with only small groups, getting matched against large groups.

[Voidcrafter]

Roland, on 13 July 2014 - 02:13 PM, said:

Yes, when you say that you are fighting against full teams 70-80% of the time when playing as a group of 2, then you are either mistaken or you are lying.

Most likely, I think you're just mistaken... But the fact is that what you believe is happening isn't even remotely close to being within the realm of possibility from a purely statistical perspective.

If you believe it actually is happening, then make a video showing multiple matches in a row, showing how you are consistently getting put on teams with only small groups, getting matched against large groups.

Yea that's what I was just thinking btw - I would provide at least screens from the next time I drop together with a mate.
The sad truth is that, when I played those games, I didn't had the slightest intention to start any topic or what so ever - but after those games I gave it a thought and here it is.
Meanwhile - you can try it for yourself - drop with one or two people in a group and see how it goes - I am quite certain that the things would roll for you the same way, as for anyone else, or at least that the chances of this to occur a quite higher than intended.