48 replies to this topic

[Ngamok]

Ecrof, on 15 July 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

I'm not that great of a pilot, just most people suck at driving the Locust. Oh have any of you mastered a locust?

I mastered my 1V!! Still sucks.

[Perilthecat]

Ecrof, on 15 July 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Its not my fault they cant aim fast enough. Have you ever driven a locust? 2.5 tone out of 20 tones at the very least for ams.

Elited the Phoenix variant, didn't bother mastering it. Thunderbolt was more fun, mastered that.

You do realize the speed shield is all that's between you and "Destroyed by:___"? The fact that they can't hit you is due to a lack of skill on their part, not an excess of skill on yours. If you can't avoid LRMs with the most nimble mech in the game, then I don't know what to say.

Maybe you could explain to the group why you believe the Locust should be impervious to LRMs?

Edited by Perilthecat, 15 July 2014 - 06:38 PM.

[Ecrof]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 July 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:

not my style, TBH.
I prefer the 3M, like this
LCT-3M
but when I do prefer to ankle bite, then the AMS goes on. Not a lot of ammo, but then, I don't intend to be in the open very long.

Nip and run
LCT-3M

works for me, though I also known to run around lobbing LRM5s in a locust.... mostly for my own entertainment.

Thanks I drive this LCT-1E

[Zolaz]

You see the problem is that you are in a Locust. Some mechs are better than others. It is best if you learn this now.

[Ecrof]

Ngamok, on 15 July 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

I mastered my 1V!! Still sucks.

1E and 3M are the best Locusts.

[Lynx7725]

... Y'know, the launchers and ammo involved in this case may actually weigh more than the Locust being targeted...

[Rando Slim]

I feel you OP, I HATE lrms and Im sick of all these elitist idiots that try to fool everyone nto thinking they never get killed or hit by them. You people do realize AMS doesn't do ****, not everyone has ******* 15,000 gxp and 6 million c-bills lying around, and oh by the way most of the maps don't have **** for cover. On top of that at some point nearly every match you have to move across open gorund. Tourmaline, Caustic, Alpine, Terra are awful maps anyway now they're even less fun. Only real cover on HPG is to hide in the basement which isn't fun. Only place to hide on Crimson is under the platform which isn't fun.
Theres ****-all cover on Canyon network, and next to no cover on forest colony either unless you go cave.

The LAST thing this game needed was another stupid lrm buff. Christ almighty. Its AWFUL.

Edited by Scrotacus 42, 15 July 2014 - 06:50 PM.

[Coralld]

Ecrof, on 15 July 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

I'm not that great of a pilot, just most people suck at driving the Locust. Oh have any of you mastered a locust?

I have, I actually like the 1M with 2x SRM4s with 1 and a 1/2 ton of ammo and 2x MLs.

Edited by Coralld, 15 July 2014 - 06:56 PM.

[Zolaz]

Scrotacus 42, on 15 July 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

I feel you OP, I HATE lrms and Im sick of all these elitist idiots that try to fool everyone nto thinking they never get killed or hit by them. You people do realize AMS doesn't do ****, not everyone has ******* 15,000 gxp and 6 million c-bills lying around, and oh by the way most of the maps don't have **** for cover. On top of that at some point nearly every match you have to move across open gorund. Tourmaline, Caustic, Alpine, Terra are awful maps anyway now they're even less fun. Only real cover on HPG is to hide in the basement which isn't fun. Only place to hide on Crimson is under the platform which isn't fun.
Theres ****-all cover on Canyon network, and next to no cover on forest colony either unless you go cave.

The LAST thing this game needed was another stupid lrm buff. Christ almighty. Its AWFUL.

I wonder why no one plays lights ... oh, look we have the answer.

[Bobby Blast]

Ecrof, on 15 July 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

I'm not that great of a pilot, just most people suck at driving the Locust. Oh have any of you mastered a locust?

No, I only pick mechs I think are going to be good. *lulz*

[Ecrof]

One of my old builds LCT-3M I guess I'll try it again. version 1.5 LCT-3M

Edited by Ecrof, 15 July 2014 - 07:17 PM.

[Sephlock]

divinedisclaimer, on 15 July 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

Radar Derp module.

This is the most noob thing I've ever heard said. Radar deprivation is the most game-changing module and I use it every game. Thanks to this module, I no longer need complete cover. If LRM's stop tracking the moment I dispensary, head-high cover is good enough.

Blob after blob fly right past my front windshield with quick reverse-and-rotate maneuvers thanks to this mod, every single one which would have otherwise hit me previously.

Further proving MWO players are inherently bad at videogames and can't recognize meta when it kills their grandmother in front of them with a baseball bat wearing a horse head mask shouting "NEIGGGHHTA! NEIIIIGHTAAA!".

Radar Deprivation should now be the first module every single pilot buys, particularly lights who have a very low threshold for visual cover.

Ask yourself: how hard is it for my Locust to break line-of-sight?

Congratulations on completely missing the point.

[divinedisclaimer]

Sephlock, on 15 July 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

Congratulations on completely missing the point.

You're bad and it makes me sad. Good thing I quoted you, so you can never undo how bad you are. A light is inevitably going to be far, far away from cover, often. Sometimes, my cover is the number 1,000.

You're like a Locust, except you can post.

Edited by divinedisclaimer, 15 July 2014 - 08:05 PM.

[Sephlock]

divinedisclaimer, on 15 July 2014 - 08:04 PM, said:

You're bad and it makes me sad. Good thing I quoted you, so you can never undo how bad you are. A light is inevitably going to be far, far away from cover, often. Sometimes, my cover is the number 1,000.

You're like a Locust, except you can post.

I am quoting this, just so it is extra hilarious when you realize what was actually being said (if you ever do- dumb people are funny that way).

[divinedisclaimer]

Derp Module? As in to suggest the Deprivation module isn't good? Or that you don't need it if you're good?

What are you trying to say?

Clearly you don't understand the concept of cover if you don't understand that the Radar Deprivation module doubles or triples the amount of it you can effectively utilize.

Edited by divinedisclaimer, 15 July 2014 - 08:12 PM.

[Sephlock]

Scrotacus 42, on 15 July 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

I feel you OP, I HATE lrms and Im sick of all these elitist idiots that try to fool everyone nto thinking they never get killed or hit by them.

I hate to tell you this, but the vast majority of us don't think we're elite, we just realize that it is insanely easy to handle LRMs.

Do us all a favor and start recording some videos with fraps where you die to LRMs and post them on youtube. You can link us to them right here in this thread.

It would be interesting to see exactly what your problem is with regards to LRMs.

[Lynx7725]

Sephlock, on 15 July 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

I hate to tell you this, but the vast majority of us don't think we're elite, we just realize that it is insanely easy to handle LRMs.

Hell I'm so far from elite I don't even see it. I still die from LRMs, yes I do. I just don't make it easy for the LRM boats to kill me.. they gotta work too man. Usually I die when I make a mistake in front of too many enemies, but that's nothing to do with LRMs.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

My locust builds:
COM-3A
DEATH'S KNELL
COM-1B
COM-1D
LCT-1V

[Rando Slim]

I'd like to clarify that my above post wasn't even in regard to light mechs, I actually still can avoid them ok in light mechs, but basically the game is now more or less forcing you to get a radar dep module. The problem is any other mech. I just quit playing for the night because I was trying to level my Nova and I just don't have the gxp to unlock the module anf got killed 3 times in a row by lrms. I was sticking with my team, I had friends on teamspeak, people just arbitrarily picked me out of a blob when they could have lrmed a warhawk or a dire whale standing right next to me. There wasn't **** I could do. Once was on tourmaline, where theres no appreciable cover where the fighting happens. The next one I got legged in 1-2 volleys from a Warhawk on Crimson at the beginning of the match I was following my team up the ramp and stupid warhawk just happened to peek from a corner and tag me and then lrm after lrm after lrm. theres no cover that works on top of the platform on Crimson. I had to fall down one of the holes to get away but of course there was some fatties camping the tunnel that blew my other leg off. The other team played well, but the point is I didn't do anything wrong either. I was aware of where the enemy was, I followed my team, I was looking for a place to hide, the problem is there wasn't one. WTF am I supposed to do power down and wait 10 bloody minutes every match? Furthermore, all you really have to do right now is just let your frontline mechs fight and lock targets and stand at the back and lob lrms on distracted targets, its stupidly easy, and the enemy never even sees you if you do it right. I'm sorry but I have a problem with that in a game that's supposed to be about thinking and skill.

EDIT: I don't expect to NEVER get killed by lrms, and I know how to do the whole reverse twist step thing when your looking up at the missiles to dodge them at the last second. But there are times on certain maps it just isn't enough or isn't possible when your fighting something else when all of the enemy teams or just one lrm-40 or 60 is focusing on you. I fundamentally hate them so much because its a low skill weapon. Yes you have to sacrifice a lot to build them right, and yes the BEST lrm pilots move a lot and get their own locks and know just which targets to pick I know all that. But the point is you can deal lots of damage without exposing yourself unlike every other weapon. And now with the pinpoint patch......your gonna get legs blown off by them a lot as you try to run away, which really sucks. Like sometimes I can avoid lrms but sometimes I just cant and I blame bad map design and I blame the way people play the maps. Tell me, wheres the cover in e6/f7 on tourmaline where EVERY match takes place? Wheres the cover on the hill in Alpine? Wheres the cover in e4 of terra therma? Wheres the cover in canyon network outside of standing under those little bridges the whole match? Wheres the cover on Caustic Valley? Sooner or later your gonna get seen by the enemy, you cant hunt missile boats like you used to, people are too much in a blob I never see LRM boats by themselves or close to it in my bracket, and any mech fast enough to do it goes down too fast now that TTK has been reduced. I'd make a video but I honestly don't know how, I'm not very computer savvy and I'm not sure if my computer is equipped for it.

Edited by Scrotacus 42, 15 July 2014 - 08:42 PM.

[Wispsy]

Perilthecat, on 15 July 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

"Emergency! There is a weapon that counters the speed shield on my otherwise invincible 20 ton light!

Yep. You're on your own on this one.

I am sorry...did you just call the Locust mostly invincible?

Of course he is on his own...how could you possibly be any use whilst believing this?