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[Sephlock]

At first I thought it might be ideal for the Warhawk but then I saw that the awkward fixed DHS placement makes using the biggest TC (and really, you MUST use the biggest one, ALWAYS) awkward at best.

[Vassago Rain]

You take the level 1 computer.
Now you equip active probe.

There, you now have a really good deal, and it's only two tons and two crits.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Why are we trying to use the biggest one? Seems the mark I is the best bang for your buck.

[TercieI]

There are TCs past level 1? I'm confused.

[kesuga7]

looks way op 2 me

well most dires look like that

These are vunerable to arm explosions defintely
Direwolf - 1 gauss rifle - 40 shots - 1 Lrm 15 artemis - 1 lrm 20 artemis - 1080 lrm ammo - 2 ER large lasers - 19 doubles
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d64ed7079d6ad47

Spoiler

Or if your willing to drop a heatsink you can do 1260 lrm ammo and tag with .50 more leg and cockpit armour
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...54686d038c40501


Or you could do 2 LRm 15 artemis with Tag and another ton of lrm ammmo with 1 more ton of armour
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...899141a16c886a3


Or Two AC 5's With 2 large lasers , 2 lrm 15 artemis Targetking computer mark 7
1260 lrm ammo and 19 double heatsinks with good armour
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c71acd8e153fc64

Direwolf - 2 gauss rifles - 50 gauss ammo - 2 AC 2 - 300 AC 2 ammo - 16 Doubles - 1 ER large laser - Targeting computer mark 7 http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0a2f7dfab265112

Spoiler

Or you can drop the ER large laser to 2 ER medium lasers,Heatsink and another ton of AC 2 ammo http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dedf70a1f7b22a9

Timerwolf - 1 flamer - 3 lrm 15 - 1 lrm 5 - 1260 lrm ammo - 1 jumpjet - targeting computer mark 7 http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d12b97f8e7aaa4b



Warhawk - 22 doubles - 2 er large lasers - 1 er medium laser - 2 lrm 15 - 1 lrm 10 - 1260 lrm ammo - targeting computer mark 7 http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5f25ed8882b8cff

Edited by kesuga7, 21 July 2014 - 03:02 PM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Rouken, on 21 July 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

Why are we trying to use the biggest one? Seems the mark I is the best bang for your buck.

I use a MK VII on my Dire Wolf with the 2 PPC/2 Gauss. Probably the only mech with weight to spare for it. Works for me with the faster projectile speed and you get over 5x zoom when you pair it with Advanced Zoom. With a Clan Active Probe, you have targeting info from pretty far out.

I don't think I'd use the VII on any other mech though...usually stick to I or II.

Then again, seeing as how that build is getting nerfed soon, I probably won't be using it much more.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Lyoto Machida, on 21 July 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

I use a MK VII on my Dire Wolf with the 2 PPC/2 Gauss. Probably the only mech with weight to spare for it. Works for me with the faster projectile speed and you get over 5x zoom when you pair it with Advanced Zoom. With a Clan Active Probe, you have targeting info from pretty far out.

I don't think I'd use the VII on any other mech though...usually stick to I or II.

Then again, seeing as how that build is getting nerfed soon, I probably won't be using it much more.

That seems excessive. Are you running that with any extra DHS? Personally, I'd rather have 20+ DHS and a mark I, maybe mark III at the most.

[Ospreyy]

I've been putting a TC on every clan mech. The faster targeting alone makes tc1 worth it. Everything else is gravy.

[Sephlock]

Vassago Rain, on 21 July 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

You take the level 1 computer.
Now you equip active probe.

There, you now have a really good deal, and it's only two tons and two crits.

Rouken, on 21 July 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

Why are we trying to use the biggest one? Seems the mark I is the best bang for your buck.

Terciel1976, on 21 July 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

There are TCs past level 1? I'm confused.

What is wrong with you people?

The Rule of Dakka* applies to dakka assisting equipment as well.

*For example, you only ever run an LBX-10 instead of an LBX-20 if you absolutely cannot fit the LBX-20, and even then you do so with a deep sense of shame, like you are into some unspeakable type of ... entertainment

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 21 July 2014 - 03:22 PM.
Seriously, removed latter comments

[Angel of Annihilation]

Honestly I am not sure it really does much of anything.

I have had my Stormcrow Prime armed with 7 C-ER MLs and I really just do not see much of a difference between using no Targeting computer, using the MK I, MK III or MK V. The Biggest issue I have her is that to mount the MK V I have to give up 2 DHS and the MK III, 1 DHS and it seems I get more bang for the buck mounting the DHSs.

For mechs using Ballistic, I will say it is actually nice for speeding up the projectile. I did notice a difference here.

[FupDup]

If I've heard correctly, lasers get a crit change for each "tick" of their beam...which means that the crit buff of the TC actually applies "more often" for lasers than projectile weapons (due to the sheer spam of laser ticks).

[El Bandito]

Quad CERPPC + Hexa MG Direwolf with Targeting computer VII. Can be done by mixing the Prime and B configs. Stupid build but hey, equipping TC VII itself is stupid.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 July 2014 - 03:42 PM.

[Sephlock]

FupDup, on 21 July 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

If I've heard correctly, lasers get a crit change for each "tick" of their beam...which means that the crit buff of the TC actually applies "more often" for lasers than projectile weapons (due to the sheer spam of laser ticks).

Everyone, let's log onto the servers simultaneously with targeting computers in laser boats and fire simultaneously to see if we can cause a blip on the server logs!

[MonkeyCheese]

Only got the first 3 clan mechs so havent bothered testing the larger TCs but I am using a lv1 on my "medic" kitfox (ecm/bap/3ams/tc1) and on my dual LPL kitfox, and I have a TC2 on my 12 ersl nova prime but haven't really gotten into the novas yet too busy with other mechs?

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

CERLL boats.


975M opt range? Fo'shizzle.

[Khobai]

Level 1 targeting computer is all thats worth using on most mechs.

The only mech I think should have a level 6 or higher targeting computer is the Warhawk. And thats because it has the spare tonnage and needs the targeting computer to improve the quality of the few hardpoints it has.

PGI really needs to reevaluate how they do things like targeting computers and jumpjets. The highest level/amount should be the most worthwhile. Not the least worthwhile.

Edited by Khobai, 21 July 2014 - 04:56 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Sephlock, on 21 July 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

Everyone, let's log onto the servers simultaneously with targeting computers in laser boats and fire simultaneously to see if we can cause a blip on the server logs!

Is it bad you have a solid chance of doing that?

[Asmudius Heng]

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If I've heard correctly, lasers get a crit change for each "tick" of their beam...which means that the crit buff of the TC actually applies "more often" for lasers than projectile weapons (due to the sheer spam of laser ticks).

This is true but the multiplier is much smaller.

The bigger the hit the less chance you are going to cause a crit - but the crit will be much larger if you do get it.

Since most items have 10HP and damage is spread between them the lasers may do more crits but it will be small and spread.

The increased damage to the internal structure however is probably best - a laser beam held on an exposed section well will usually generate some additional damage which can often be better than a big strike overkill - but it is much of a muchness

[MonkeyCheese]

I just seen a direwolf ingame with what I assumed to be using this build http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a7c620e66473561

He was dominating EVERYTHING with a mk7 targeting computer his ERLL range would have been 1023 optimal meters and 2047 max meters.

[627]

Had a mark VI on my nova prime with 6 ML - and the S runs 6 ML with more heatsinks and MGs. To be true, you don't really use or need the extended range and even the faster target info don't make the cut.

And for crits? One shot gives you 42 damage, so you don't really need crits. besides, I never saw it crit anything but this could be due to the heat of the battle. Most of the times you can kill the whole component, anyway.

What you will miss with a big TC are the extra heatsinks or ammo, that nova is way to hot for that "bonus" - IO think I'll drop it down to a 1ton TC with a probe and 4 extra heatsinks...