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[Aznpersuasion89]

So I think my mobo (Asus board with e5400 cpu) may have died. I was watching a movie on the computer today nothing noteable. Right after the movie the pc restarts from a blue screen. After I rebooted it another blue screen. Reboot again and it seems stable but I notice its only using 3 of 6gb of ram. Try to get it back to 6 through msconfig, restart, only getting 5gb....then total freeze. Restart do a disk repair, can't do it. Finish and restart......nothing. fans and lights come on but no message and no harddisk response. I'm really just hoping the mobo failed. Gives me an excuse to go quad core now. Let me know please.

Ps- installed antec psu as recommended by a member here. Nothing crazy, just 450w. Installed two days ago.

Edited by Aznpersuasion89, 22 June 2012 - 09:57 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

As far as it goes, check your wiring first to see if something came lose, otherwise in my opinion you would be best off getting a new quad core for MWO and future games.

And should you chose to, my recommendations:
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157292
RAM: (if you don't already have DDR3) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820103006

Upgrade beyond that for CPU+Mobo:
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.956403

[LordDeathStrike]

sounds like either the board failed, or something came loose and you didnt check so with all the rebooting with loose connections you cooked something, either way its dead jim.

[Black Fool]

If it was stable with only 3 GB out of your 6 GB, I'm thinking you had memory that went bad in there. The restart and the disk repair fail is the problem - unstable memory and trying to fix a disk = bad writes and problems. I'm guessing it screwed up your windows installation which is why you're not getting any response now.

You can try to fix it - figure out which memory sticks are bad and do a repair/reload on windows - or you can just upgrade since you may have to reload anyway.

[Jubub]

If able to boot into BIOS, run check RAM test. >> pass test, possible HDD issue.
If unable to boot into BIOS, probably issue with MOBO.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Well I'm thinking its completely done. Nothing happens save for the fans coming on. I called aside and they said I can use my system restore disk containing Windows 7 and either reinstall it on a new hd or if this one works with a new board reinstall on this hd. Any other tests I can do to confirm before I pull the trigger?

[Vulpesveritas]

Unplug and replug everything in, and reseat the CPU.

Otherwise, well no, not really.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Already did. Ok, well thanks for the help. I'll post back with more questions when they arise.

[Jubub]

Hmm.. If it does not boot up, not even to BIOS, your pretty much SOL.. 8-[

[Aznpersuasion89]

For the sake of saving cash what about this combo?


http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.951167

[Vulpesveritas]

Aznpersuasion89, on 22 June 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

For the sake of saving cash what about this combo?


http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.951167

It's nowhere near as fast of a CPU, nor as high quality of a motherboard. AsRock is in most cases a higher quality brand than ECS.
And AM3+ has an upgrade path to it, so you can put a better CPU in later, whereas FM1 is dead, and is being replaced in a month or three.

For $20 more these are much better deals for the long run:
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.956183

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 22 June 2012 - 10:44 PM.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Gotcha, thanks. Still learning.

[Vulpesveritas]

edited with a combo for $20 more which is a better deal.

[HiredGun]

Not sure if it was clear or not, but you should reseat all your RAM and Video Card also.

[Stray Ion]

As with what was mentioned before with checking physical connections and isolating memory, check your capacitors on the MOBO and look for leaking or domed capacitors.

I take it you have access to internet, check out badcaps.net. Example pictures are on the lower right hand of the screen.

All components have a limited life and not all are equal.

I experienced your symptoms before on a previous computer. My issues arose after a 2 month old PSU (not a cheap one either) had its rectification circuit literally blow up. I tore out my vid card and replaced the dead PSU with the stock and booted up with out issue. When my new PSU arrived free of charge due to warrenty, the PC ran fine for a year. Then I experienced your symptoms and low and behold a majority of the caps were bad on the MOBO.

My guess is that your MOBO is bad as it will not even boot. Does your monitor display anything besides the possible "No Signal Detected"?

My advice is if you decide you need a new machine, buy one off the shelf and future proof it with a vid card, PSU (which you should already have) and possibly a new processor. It's alot easier to get going if you ever have to do a fresh install as you don't have to worry about drivers, just the software for your video card. By the time you add up the cost for comparable hardware and OS, you will find seldom can you build a machine cheaper than the big companies can (just don't buy upgrades from them as the mark up is out of this world). You can be surprised what $500 can get you.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Well I'm going to reuse my case, no video card yet, hopefully my 1tb hd is useable, I'm going to use my brand new antec psu (450w) and optical cd drive. Going to get new mobo, CPU and ram.

And no, the monitor doesn't even turn on from sleep mode. Nothing happens. Quad core next.

Edited by Aznpersuasion89, 22 June 2012 - 10:55 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Stray Ion, on 22 June 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

As with what was mentioned before with checking physical connections and isolating memory, check your capacitors on the MOBO and look for leaking or domed capacitors.

I take it you have access to internet, check out badcaps.net. Example pictures are on the lower right hand of the screen.

All components have a limited life and not all are equal.

I experienced your symptoms before on a previous computer. My issues arose after a 2 month old PSU (not a cheap one either) had its rectification circuit literally blow up. I tore out my vid card and replaced the dead PSU with the stock and booted up with out issue. When my new PSU arrived free of charge due to warrenty, the PC ran fine for a year. Then I experienced your symptoms and low and behold a majority of the caps were bad on the MOBO.

My guess is that your MOBO is bad as it will not even boot. Does your monitor display anything besides the possible "No Signal Detected"?

My advice is if you decide you need a new machine, buy one off the shelf and future proof it with a vid card, PSU (which you should already have) and possibly a new processor. It's alot easier to get going if you ever have to do a fresh install as you don't have to worry about drivers, just the software for your video card. By the time you add up the cost for comparable hardware and OS, you will find seldom can you build a machine cheaper than the big companies can (just don't buy upgrades from them as the mark up is out of this world). You can be surprised what $500 can get you.

$150 for a new mobo and CPU or $500 for a new computer that will be slower... hmm...

Sorry, just my input. The main thing on OEM PCs is they put in tiny, low quality PSUs, and generally use cheap cases. In general you're getting low end parts, and that's all,

It's why they seem so cheap for what you get, although anything over $600 and it is still cheaper to build your own if you are looking for a gaming rig once you factor in your video card and all.

Aznpersuasion89, on 22 June 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Well I'm going to reuse my case, no video card yet, hopefully my 1tb hd is useable, I'm going to use my brand new antec psu (450w) and optical cd drive. Going to get new mobo, CPU and ram.

if you don't have a video card, you'll need to buy one for the CPU and mobo I recommended.

This is cheap and should run MWO at 720p decently;
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161409

But since you're ordering things already, if you have the money for it I recommend just getting a decent low end gaming card;
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127664

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 22 June 2012 - 10:57 PM.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Looking at mobo I see some pathways and the surrounding solder has turned yellow? Melted? Did my psu do this?

The 7770 of is what i wqs gonna buy tomorrow actually. Not anymore. But I still plan on buying that card

[Vulpesveritas]

Aznpersuasion89, on 22 June 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Looking at mobo I see some pathways and the surrounding solder has turned yellow? Melted? Did my psu do this?

Can you take a picture and upload it so we might be able to see exactly where it is perhaps?

Aznpersuasion89, on 22 June 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

The 7770 of is what i wqs gonna buy tomorrow actually. Not anymore. But I still plan on buying that card

Even if you can't get a 7770 off the bat, a 6570 will be faster than any of the integrated GPUs you were looking at, and be a decent backup card should something go wrong. Though for that purpose as a backup card later on, this 6670 is a much better deal for $10 more;
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102988

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 22 June 2012 - 11:10 PM.

[Aznpersuasion89]