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[Mazzyplz]

there are maps i don't like either,
but what would be the result of your idea?

balanced loadouts wouldn't be needed anymore, all the brawlers would play the river and frozen city maps.

all the lrm boats would play alpine, tourmaline and caustic

all the ballistic boats would play is terra therma and caustic so they can use their lack of heat

all the energy boats would only play colony snow, frozen city or alpine, so they never overheat and you would see 4+ ppc boats





no.




the way it is set up now you have to think about all of that and not be a dead duck in any maps - which in turn helps to balance gameplay and make it more fun

[Carrioncrows]

Would Pay MC to skip Terra Therma and RCN.

[The Great Unwashed]

Therma is a great map because it is very strict on players with bad heat management skills, it is large so it rewards team play and cooperation or stealthy sniping, and unlike Alpine you don't always end up fighting for the same hill (Well, technically you DO but it's so large it should count as several locations) and LRMs are more difficult to use. Plus, most people do not like the map and I see that as an advantage. What's not to like?

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 23 July 2014 - 11:33 PM.

[Widowmaker1981]

Mazzyplz, on 23 July 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

there are maps i don't like either,
but what would be the result of your idea?

balanced loadouts wouldn't be needed anymore, all the brawlers would play the river and frozen city maps.

all the lrm boats would play alpine, tourmaline and caustic

all the ballistic boats would play is terra therma and caustic so they can use their lack of heat

all the energy boats would only play colony snow, frozen city or alpine, so they never overheat and you would see 4+ ppc boats





no.




the way it is set up now you have to think about all of that and not be a dead duck in any maps - which in turn helps to balance gameplay and make it more fun

what he said. you can't allow people to customise load outs for maps, because it breaks the game.

[Sembrin]

I would really love the option to blacklist ONE map. I HATE Frozen City, especially the Snowing version, as Heat Vision lags me the heck out. Maybe after we get these next two maps it would be something they'd seriously consider. Well, they won't, but I can dream.

[The Blood God]

jaxjace, on 23 July 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Honestly why the hell not? Who actually LIKES therma?

Also alpine is broken. River city is broken, Forrest colony is straight up too small.

The only fun maps are HPG Frozen River(and its broke!) and Straight and they are getting old.

i like all the maps its playing the same map 7 out of 10 drops that gets up my nose never happens with my favorite maps either

[Satan n stuff]

MAX909, on 24 July 2014 - 01:13 AM, said:

i like all the maps its playing the same map 7 out of 10 drops that gets up my nose never happens with my favorite maps either

I don't mind it, some days it's Terra Therma, some days it's Caustic, then Alpine, etc. I'll play over 100 matches a week when I feel like it so I see all of the maps fairly frequently, it's the repetitive gameplay that annoys me the most.

[Ursh]

I'd blacklist River City Night.

I want 3050 night vision, not 1985 night vision. Seriously, the Night Vision goggles I used in the army in the late 90s were way better than what my fusion powered pinnacle of technology uses in MWO.

[Ursh]

I think the biggest problem that most people have with terra therma is that they don't know how to defend the center correctly.

[KuroNyra]

jaxjace, on 23 July 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Honestly why the hell not? Who actually LIKES therma?

I do.

[Andross Deverow]

jaxjace, on 23 July 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Honestly why the hell not? Who actually LIKES therma?

Also alpine is broken. River city is broken, Forrest colony is straight up too small.

The only fun maps are HPG Frozen River(and its broke!) and Straight and they are getting old.

- Alpine isnt broken the players are. Noone wants to explore different ways to play the map. Everyone always assumes the only way to win is to get on top of Moron Mountain. Then a whak a mole fight insues.... how exciting. There are other areas of the map to use.

- Forest Colony is too small.

Regards

[Khobai]

They need to implement 4v4, 8v8, and 12v12 matches. Certain maps like river city are just too small for 12v12.

[Andross Deverow]

627, on 23 July 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:

Hey we found one of the five players who likes that map

But seriously we have so few maps... and, you know... those maps are EXPENSIVE to make according PGI so no way to drop them (or even "fix" them).

And in a more wholesale sense, players shouldn't be allowed to "choose" maps at all. You have to build your mech for all possible maps, hot/cold, small/large doesn't matter. No need for 20 Jagerbombs on river city or a full LRM team on alpine.

Expensive to make maps... Ok ill go with that..
Lets see, 25000 or so Masakari pakages sold = $6 Million dollars.
I could make alot of good maps for 6 mil.... Not an excuse by no means... CW is going to be a huge joke without a massive database of maps/worlds to play on.

Regards

[CDLord HHGD]

jaxjace, on 23 July 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Honestly why the hell not? Who actually LIKES therma?

Also alpine is broken. River city is broken, Forrest colony is straight up too small.

The only fun maps are HPG Frozen River(and its broke!) and Straight and they are getting old.

I like Therma... I like Alpine... I like HPG (despite the hitboxes).

I remember way back in CB when Caustic was the target of ire... Even Forest Colony was on that list too. My how times change.

We need more maps, not less! Whine less, adapt more.

[Mawai]

Everyone has map preferences ... often it is because of the build they are running. A brawler assault on alpine can have troubles getting close for example. So folks who prefer that playstyle don't like Alpine because it isn't easy mode and they feel disadvantaged. Snipers tend to like the more wide open terrain on alpine.

The biggest issue however would be the matchmaking. Let's say you form a group of 12 and among you every map has a veto ... how do you form a match? Or you are in a group of 4 and there end up being only 2 or 3 maps that you want to play in common ... the queue times go way up and you wind up begging for the maps you hate since you are bored of the ones you can get. Even in the solo queue ... either your preferences will mean that you wait longer (possibly much longer) or your preferences force others to play on your preferred maps (since the matchmaker can't put you in a match on the maps you don't like ... so automatically the others come up more often).

In conclusion, learn to play and have fun on all the available maps ... if you don't want to play on certain maps then set up a private match and play what you like. Develop fits that can work on any of the maps ... for example, some of my light mech fits will include an ER large laser so I can do damage at long as well as short range.

[IraqiWalker]

jaxjace, on 23 July 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Honestly why the hell not? Who actually LIKES therma?

Also alpine is broken. River city is broken, Forrest colony is straight up too small.

The only fun maps are HPG Frozen River(and its broke!) and Straight and they are getting old.

I love Terra Therma. It's one of the best designed maps to ever come out. Seriously, I personally think it's THE best map in the game so far. A close second is Canyon and HPG. Alpine is third.

[TercieI]

Ihasa, on 23 July 2014 - 09:53 PM, said:

No thanks. Few enough maps as it is, no matter how bad they are.

So much this.

[Jonny Taco]

Lets start this backwards then? Which one map would people NOT skip if they had the option?

I'm going with crimson, it's easily the best map in the game.

[IraqiWalker]

Andross Deverow, on 24 July 2014 - 03:36 AM, said:

Expensive to make maps... Ok ill go with that..
Lets see, 25000 or so Masakari pakages sold = $6 Million dollars.
I could make alot of good maps for 6 mil.... Not an excuse by no means... CW is going to be a huge joke without a massive database of maps/worlds to play on.

Regards

Good argument, but has too many flaws. So I guess not so good.

The maps don't just pop out as soon as you deposit the money. It takes time to design and test them. You want PGI to crank out more maps faster. They need a bigger team to work on them. They are working on maps, and sadly the next two are still a a couple months away from being released.

[Blood Rose]

I like Terra Therma. Not because of the heat but because it is one of the two/3 maps that we have that are actually large enough for us to fight in Company v Company engagements, the others being Alpine and, arguably, Tourmaline. Canyon isnt to bad either, but it is a little small.