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[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 28 July 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

At what point in this thread do you think OP realized he had made a terrible mistake?

He is a troll who watched a troll thread hit 3 pages, he considers this a success.

[DaZur]

Alistair Winter, on 28 July 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

At what point in this thread do you think OP realized he had made a terrible mistake?

Right after the first nail pierced his palm as he was nailed to the cross?

[Agent of Change]

MeiSooHaityu, on 28 July 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

I agree with the OP. Torso twisting to spread damage is a huge problem in this game. Lighter side armor would really help this out.

While we are at it, I think the base speed for all Assault mechs should be no slower than 80kph. I mean, come on...a small engine in a light mech moves it about 100+ kph, why can't the same engine in an Assault move it at least 80 ~ 90kph.

Lastly, I think Mediums and Lights are tricky to use in the current game due to their lack of armor. I think we should bump light mechs armor to 4x that of TT and Mediums 5x that of TT armor values to make them more viable.


Yep, that seem to make perfect sense to me.

















LOL. Nope

Oh Oh and no nerfs ever again only buff stuff, cause there's no way that wouldn't annihilate all the fun in the game.

[CeeKay Boques]

You think torso armor is bad? Lookit this cheater!

[Joseph Mallan]

N0MAD, on 28 July 2014 - 01:27 AM, said:

Errr are you saying we need more love on the side rather than love from the back?
Im totally for that.

NOMAD likes Spooning! You read it here first!

[Lightfoot]

I understand. The bug or feature is most evident on the Centurion which can absorb insane damage into it's blown off arm socket. That arm socket can take more damage than an Atlas center torso. Doesn't PGI say that is working as intended though?

[stjobe]

Lightfoot, on 28 July 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

I understand. The bug or feature is most evident on the Centurion which can absorb insane damage into it's blown off arm socket.

Well, to be fair it works the same way on all 'mechs; the Cent just happen to have rather big left-over (not blown off) arm debris when the arm gets blown off.

Lightfoot, on 28 July 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

That arm socket can take more damage than an Atlas center torso.

Hmm... Can it? Let's see:

AS7-D CT: 94+62=156 points.

CN9-A ST: 26+24=50 points, but hitting the arm debris only transfers 50%, so 100 points.
CN9-A CT:36+32=68 points, but hitting the arm debris only transfers 25%, so 272 points.

So yeah, to core a Cent by only shooting its arm, you need to deal 372 damage to the arm debris; more than twice what you need to go through a pristine Atlas CT. Count the arm itself (32+16) and you're looking at 420 damage, 2.5 times the Atlas CT.

On the other hand, you only need 112 damage to destroy both legs of the Cent (32+24 each leg), much less than the CT of the Atlas.

Go for the legs. Always go for the legs.

Lightfoot, on 28 July 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Doesn't PGI say that is working as intended though?

Yes, it's a feature.

Incidentally, for those of you who still haven't figured it out, the Spider has very similar arm debris as the Centurion; it's the Centurion of lights - something that plays a major part in its "unkillable" reputation.

Edit: Pristing?!? Pristine.

Edited by stjobe, 28 July 2014 - 08:20 PM.