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[Sev Malthus]

Probably already posted but never saw it.

Many people want the HTAL view and I can understand their desire but I like the current damage diagram much more. It's more intuitive and faster to realize your status.
But the current diagram has a big problem, it is very inaccurate and begins with a yellow color what is usually used as warning.




It would be much more common and accurate if the damage diagram begins with a green color.

Edited by Sev7, 28 July 2014 - 12:10 PM.

[Ryokens leap]

Yes, great idea.

[Bigbacon]

HTAL would be the bomb....

3d wireframe would be ever better

more colors would be a good start.

[CocoaJin]

I agree with the OP...and it seems a quick fix

[Nothing Whatsoever]

My only concern is that the colors chosen should be as color blind friendly as possible, but I do like the idea of greater detail, and I'd like to also see HTAL in the future too.

[kuangmk11]

Praetor Knight, on 28 July 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:

My only concern is that the colors chosen should be as color blind friendly as possible, but I do like the idea of greater detail, and I'd like to also see HTAL in the future too.

I am green/brown colorblind. I can see all the shades in the original example but I can't see any difference in the top row of the revised (besides the undamaged obviously). Not against the idea but the color variation would need to be more pronounced.

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

The addition of more states of damage is fine, but the small changes you are referring to don't show enough 'change' for most Pilots to 'register' during battle.

- Since the final state is a black item, I propose that there be a 'full cup/empty cup' black addition inserted into each area.
- As the item is damaged the outer colour is changed the way we have it now, but there also starts a black filled area from the top down until it's destroyed.
This would clearly indicate 'at a glance' just how much armour and material is 'left' to go.

This would combine the style we have now with the HTAL method of display and allow even colour blind Pilots to really see how much damage is inflicted. The additional 'contrast' is quite effective.

Here's a sample:



Just a thought,
9erRed

Edited by 9erRed, 29 July 2014 - 03:36 AM.

[Bigbacon]

9erRed, on 29 July 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Greetings all,

The addition of more states of damage is fine, but the small changes you are referring to don't show enough 'change' for most Pilots to 'register' during battle.

- Since the final state is a black item, I propose that there be a 'full cup/empty cup' black addition inserted into each area.
- As the item is damaged the outer colour is changed the way we have it now, but there also starts a black filled area from the top down until it's destroyed.
This would clearly indicate 'at a glance' just how much armour and material is 'left' to go.

This would combine the style we have now with the HTAL method of display and allow even colour blind Pilots to really see how much damage is inflicted. The additional 'contrast' is quite effective.

Here's a sample:



Just a thought,
9erRed

this is a good idea except, how do you handle the internal structure?

[HammerMaster]

How about, make that colored part the internals and have that move down incrementaly also.

Edited by HammerMaster, 29 July 2014 - 04:27 AM.

[Rushin Roulette]

9erRed, on 29 July 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Greetings all,

The addition of more states of damage is fine, but the small changes you are referring to don't show enough 'change' for most Pilots to 'register' during battle.

- Since the final state is a black item, I propose that there be a 'full cup/empty cup' black addition inserted into each area.
- As the item is damaged the outer colour is changed the way we have it now, but there also starts a black filled area from the top down until it's destroyed.
This would clearly indicate 'at a glance' just how much armour and material is 'left' to go.

This would combine the style we have now with the HTAL method of display and allow even colour blind Pilots to really see how much damage is inflicted. The additional 'contrast' is quite effective.

Here's a sample:



Just a thought,
9erRed

Very nice, But wouldnt it be better to have the box of the armour (the bit that changes colour currently) drop down the more is destroyed, and then the internals disapear the same way like in our example.

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

Reference the 'Internals'

It can be inserted in the middle of the black out area as a single solid white line that also goes through this 'blackout' process.
- So once the armour is mid destroyed, you see the "Internal' line appear, indicating that there could now be a chance of 'critical' damage and component destruction. Internals exposed at this point.
(probably about the 5th image or 'orange' indication.)

Example only:




9erRed

Edited by 9erRed, 29 July 2014 - 06:05 PM.

[Sev Malthus]

kuangmk11, on 28 July 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

I am green/brown colorblind. I can see all the shades in the original example but I can't see any difference in the top row of the revised (besides the undamaged obviously). Not against the idea but the color variation would need to be more pronounced.

The question is why are there no different color modes in the options for the different types of color blindness?

[Karl Streiger]

9erRed, on 29 July 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

This would combine the style we have now with the HTAL method of display and allow even colour blind Pilots to really see how much damage is inflicted. The additional 'contrast' is quite effective.

While i don't like it to be called color blind - i have some problems from time to time (shooting mates in the back on Canyon Network for example - sorry (i don't see the red triangle over your head)
And of course i have my problems with armor - i pilot my Mech by feeling - rather than a look on the damage diagramm (only helpful when internal is damaged

[Dark DeLaurel]

The HTAL is by far the best setup or a wireframe as a close second. hell i would even go for just a % readout like CT 100% RA 44%, etc.

[Burktross]

Why not make the body lime green by default, and to the normal yellow/red shades when damaged?