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#1 Dimento Graven

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:35 PM

These "kill based" challenges, and the "solo only" contests PGI puts out only encourages bad play.

This is supposed to be team play, so why the heck not have challenges be scored on NUMBER OF ASSISTS, instead of 20 kills, make it 100 assists? Instead of score only being counted when "solo" have the score count in both team and solo based play?

Every time you do one of these challenges, "team play" in the pug realm goes to absolute ****. People start shooting through teammates to try and steal a kill, or go all "rambozo" and try and kill 12 people all by themselves, or as bad, sit back for half the match while the rest of the team dies and then try and do a clean up run on the damaged enemy.

These challenges and contests need to ENCOURAGE team play in the community, not put it under temporary suspension. I'm tired of having my back cored out, or getting TK'd, or having to attempt to jerk my fire away from some ****** who decided it'd be a good idea to jump in front of me to get that cored Atlas in front of me.

Seriously, you have GOT to better on this...

#2 Sandpit

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

View PostDimento Graven, on 08 August 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

These "kill based" challenges, and the "solo only" contests PGI puts out only encourages bad play.

This is supposed to be team play, so why the heck not have challenges be scored on NUMBER OF ASSISTS, instead of 20 kills, make it 100 assists? Instead of score only being counted when "solo" have the score count in both team and solo based play?

Every time you do one of these challenges, "team play" in the pug realm goes to absolute ****. People start shooting through teammates to try and steal a kill, or go all "rambozo" and try and kill 12 people all by themselves, or as bad, sit back for half the match while the rest of the team dies and then try and do a clean up run on the damaged enemy.

These challenges and contests need to ENCOURAGE team play in the community, not put it under temporary suspension. I'm tired of having my back cored out, or getting TK'd, or having to attempt to jerk my fire away from some ****** who decided it'd be a good idea to jump in front of me to get that cored Atlas in front of me.

Seriously, you have GOT to better on this...

you expect anything less?

#3 Sephlock

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:49 PM

Incidentally is there a place to keep track of your progress in this challenge?

View PostSandpit, on 08 August 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

you expect anything less?

Not really.

#4 Axeface

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:49 PM

I thought exactly the same thing when I saw the challenge criteria.
It is so strange.

#5 DEMAX51

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:51 PM

View PostSephlock, on 08 August 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Incidentally is there a place to keep track of your progress in this challenge?

https://mwomercs.com...type=challenges

Can take a few minutes to update after each match, though.

#6 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:00 PM

personaly i dont like for this kill based chalange, most of the time i get 3-4 assists in a good match,
ive maybe kill 5 people a week, if im lucky, so this really sets me back, im a support and spot player,
for this chalange im useless, and it bothers me abit that it feels like they are forcing players to play,
as Assaults or Heavys to get (Kills) and 20 of them, all pugs that dont own the mechs will run trials,
most matches ive been in have been populated with Victors or Orions,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 08 August 2014 - 01:01 PM.


#7 ManDaisy

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

Its not a good challenge honestly. Only good for up front damage dealers and not for anything else. Mediums, lights get shafted because of low alphas. Team work goes to **** for whoever can get the last shot in. This is honestly poison.

As for new players in trial mechs.... oh man are they gonna have a rough time completing this if they CAN at all.

Edited by ManDaisy, 08 August 2014 - 01:05 PM.


#8 GunnyKintaro 01

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

Who cares..... They like to ruin everything they touch..... :D

#9 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

Even in the solo queue you're still playing on a team, it just lasts for one match instead of multiple.

#10 Dimento Graven

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:15 PM

Even the earlier challenges, 25 victories, encouraged team play. Everyone had a vested interest in seeing EVERYONE do well, because that was the only way to make it count.

Now... Crimany...

#11 Ihasa

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:20 PM

I have never played solo, ever. Not even once. I will never play solo. Not only do I have no interest in participating, I'm automatically excluded because I choose to enjoy company and be part of an actual team.

Therefore exclusive contest is exclusive.

#12 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:22 PM

View PostIhasa, on 08 August 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

I have never played solo, ever. Not even once. I will never play solo. Not only do I have no interest in participating, I'm automatically excluded because I choose to enjoy company and be part of an actual team.

Therefore exclusive contest is exclusive.


You're choosing not to participate, it's not excluding you.

#13 Koniks

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:25 PM

View PostIhasa, on 08 August 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

I have never played solo, ever. Not even once. I will never play solo. Not only do I have no interest in participating, I'm automatically excluded because I choose to enjoy company and be part of an actual team.

Therefore exclusive contest is exclusive.


Kills in the group queue count towards the challenge.

#14 Sandpit

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:08 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 08 August 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:


You're choosing not to participate, it's not excluding you.

except he's not

#15 Ihasa

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:09 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 08 August 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:


You're choosing not to participate, it's not excluding you.


Yes in a way. And if I misread and it does include kills from the group queue, that's a first and good on them for doing so.

Edited by Ihasa, 08 August 2014 - 03:09 PM.


#16 Dimento Graven

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

It does provided you're in one of the specific 'mechs for the challenge, so for people who play in groups, there's not going to be much difference (as long as your group maintains the same level of cooperation, and the other groups you dropped with do the same), but the pug queue... OMG, a special level of retardation has set in.

#17 KHETTI

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

First 3 games after patch, found game within 20-30 seconds, good balanced games, lots of fun.
After that back to 3-5 minute wait times, for games that had lag spikes in each and everyone, matched with players that were lucky if they managed 50 damage.
Game i just came out of, 2 of my team died in the first 30 seconds, one in a medium the other in a heavy, the rest didn't fair much better.
Tell me PGI, how exactly am i supposed to complete the challenge if my team in each and every game fail to last more than 2 minutes leaving me to battle 6+ mechs at one time?.

Forget the challenge and just gift the mechbay to anyone that logged in this weekend.

#18 Kitane

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:52 PM

Finally got Bridesmaid achievement.

#19 Dimento Graven

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

View PostKHETTI, on 08 August 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

First 3 games after patch, found game within 20-30 seconds, good balanced games, lots of fun.
After that back to 3-5 minute wait times, for games that had lag spikes in each and everyone, matched with players that were lucky if they managed 50 damage.
Game i just came out of, 2 of my team died in the first 30 seconds, one in a medium the other in a heavy, the rest didn't fair much better.
Tell me PGI, how exactly am i supposed to complete the challenge if my team in each and every game fail to last more than 2 minutes leaving me to battle 6+ mechs at one time?.

Forget the challenge and just gift the mechbay to anyone that logged in this weekend.
That and taking the servers down again to undo the oh so greatly tested C-ERLL nerfs...

I dunno WHICH competitive team you guys had test this... Ug different thread sorry... I'll go ***** in that one...

#20 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:55 PM

View PostKitane, on 08 August 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

Finally got Bridesmaid achievement.


I wish I could use achievement titles on the forums, just for this one.





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