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[Psikez]

Lefty Lucy, on 09 August 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

You'll probably use your Tardis to go back and be consulted later/earlier.

I've never seen an episode of Dr. Who

[Kyle Wright]

Sarlic, on 09 August 2014 - 03:41 AM, said:

I am just saying. It's the sad truth of these days. Your history does not make sense. And not debatable since times have changed. Nothing wrong with interacting with video games. There's a difference between playing a couple of hours then playing like a zombie in order to be the best.

I mean comp scène of MWO. The last tournament was highly pathetic.

Actually most of the comp guys that are good that I know usually play from 6 to 930pst. As far as the last MWO tournament what did you think was gonna happen when team are so close in skill. Every tournament I've been in it comes down to waiting and waiting laying in ambush to either get pick and force the enemy to have to react or by carefully planning a attack

[Aresye]

Sarlic, on 08 August 2014 - 11:00 PM, said:

They have no life. Pathetic for their age. It's a computergame. Not the olympics.

They just grab anything what they can use without rules. Nothing more then Meta horses.

For every computer game there are those who are willing to dedicate more time to it, and those that aren't. Who are you to judge how much time a person spends gaming? You aren't their parent, and if they're an adult, they're free to live their life however they want to live it. At least they've doing something they enjoy.

From a psychological perspective, the same types of competitive mindsets you think have no life probably have more of a life than you. There is no concept of losing to them. If they want a nice car, they're going to get a nice car. If they want a smoking hot girlfriend, they're going to get that smoking hot girlfriend. They see everything in life as something they can win at, and while there are obviously downsides to this type of mindset, more often than not these types of people lead happier, more fulfilling lives.

[Lefty Lucy]

Psikez, on 09 August 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

I've never seen an episode of Dr. Who

That's fine, you probably will/have soon/later.

(you called yourself a Time Lord, which is the race that The Doctor is a member of )

[ApolloKaras]

WmLowFlyer, on 09 August 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

There were no "best players" consulted.

Paul made up some numbers, put it live and then Russ realized how bad of an idea it was once in game play and got some interns to undo the ghost heat penalty.

If you read the Command Chair post, it says that the comp players were consulted about the PPC system... Nothing else. Lurk the OutreachHPG reddit from time to time. There are quite a few high level respected players that were calling for this exact change (not the specific number mind you) to take place.

[Psikez]

Lefty Lucy, on 09 August 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

That's fine, you probably will/have soon/later.

(you called yourself a Time Lord, which is the race that The Doctor is a member of )

bah I was riffing on lords

[Corvus Antaka]

Why not make this simple? Lets meet some of these "highly competitive players" in the next NGNG? Find out who they are.

50 bucks says it's not the cast and crew of HoL or CSJ

Yes, Surely PGI doesnt consider me a competitive player. I only ranked as the top player across Dystopia for 2 years running. I only have a KDR of 3.25.

So lets meet these highly competitive players with 10 KDR's that are helping balance the game.

[Psikez]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 09 August 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:

Why not make this simple? Lets meet some of these "highly competitive players" in the next NGNG? Find out who they are.

50 bucks says it's not the cast and crew of HoL or CSJ

Yes, Surely PGI doesnt consider me a competitive player. I only ranked as the top player across Dystopia for 2 years running. I only have a KDR of 3.25.

So lets meet these highly competitive players with 10 KDR's that are helping balance the game.

Dystopia....that.....source mod?

[Deathlike]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 09 August 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:

Why not make this simple? Lets meet some of these "highly competitive players" in the next NGNG? Find out who they are.

50 bucks says it's not the cast and crew of HoL or CSJ

Yes, Surely PGI doesnt consider me a competitive player. I only ranked as the top player across Dystopia for 2 years running. I only have a KDR of 3.25.

So lets meet these highly competitive players with 10 KDR's that are helping balance the game.

We can't have PGI throw people under the bus... except throw them under the bus anyways.

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3014224

[Mystere]

Here are some competitive players for you.

[Mark Brandhauber]

no offense but very few of the competitive players have interest in balance, so what makes them useful in this regard.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mark Brandhauber, on 09 August 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

no offense but very few of the competitive players have interest in balance, so what makes them useful in this regard.

I think that is a misconception that JagerXII pointed out in a podcast.

[Deathlike]

I'll let the quotes speak for themselves (somewhat taken out of context due to when they were posted, but technically relevant).

WmLowFlyer, on 08 August 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

NGNG ACES is probably them. In which case, the actual comp community don't really consider them comp

Wingbreaker, on 08 August 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

How would you know...?

[ApolloKaras]

Mark Brandhauber, on 09 August 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

no offense but very few of the competitive players have interest in balance, so what makes them useful in this regard.

why wouldn't they have an interest?

[Lightfoot]

Adiuvo, on 08 August 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

You realize PPCs were nerfed right? Like, majorly so against light mechs?

No they weren't. PPCs/ERPPCs were given travel-time synchronization with AC10's allowing for 40-50 damage pin-point alphas when mixed. Now you might think, so what?.. if you don't know how to break pin-point alpha-strike damage (Convergence) by moving laterally, which many MWO players have not figured out. But PPCs and ERPPCs are so close in speed now with AC10s that they always hit at the same instant no matter how you move your mech. So no, the PPC fix was actually an extreme buff. I have been getting hit by some of these and they take out the armor on the first hit and the internals on the second hit. There is no way you can dodge the convergence by moving laterally like you could before the "fix".

So how did that slip past everyone and make it to the Live server, and how long do we have to live with it?


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Edited by Lightfoot, 09 August 2014 - 12:35 PM.

[Lefty Lucy]

BLOOD WOLF, on 09 August 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

I think that is a misconception that JagerXII pointed out in a podcast.

What did Jager say? My experience as someone who isn't-quite-good-enough-for-comp-but-gets-dragged-into-it-anyways is that my team mates who are actually good care a lot about balance, but will use what's best regardless of whether the game is balanced or not.

[Wingbreaker]

Mark Brandhauber, on 09 August 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

no offense but very few of the competitive players have interest in balance, so what makes them useful in this regard.

[Tiberius Augustus]

they need to announce the changes that are in the works and run it on public test servers for 24 hrs, that way everybody can have a say....whats the purpose of test servers if they are not used as they should.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Lefty Lucy, on 09 August 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

What did Jager say? My experience as someone who isn't-quite-good-enough-for-comp-but-gets-dragged-into-it-anyways is that my team mates who are actually good care a lot about balance, but will use what's best regardless of whether the game is balanced or not.

I would have to go back and re-watch the last few to see. I Know he said talked about that misconception

[Adiuvo]

Lightfoot, on 09 August 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

No they weren't. PPCs/ERPPCs were given travel-time synchronization with AC10's allowing for 40-50 damage pin-point alphas when mixed. Now you might think, so what?.. if you don't know how to break pin-point alpha-strike damage (Convergence) by moving laterally, which many MWO players have not figured out. But PPCs and ERPPCs are so close in speed now with AC10s that they always hit at the same instant no matter how you move your mech. So no, the PPC fix was actually an extreme buff. I have been getting hit by some of these and they take out the armor on the first hit and the internals on the second hit. There is no way you can dodge the convergence by moving laterally like you could before the "fix".

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Gauss was relatively synced with PPCs before this change. AC5s were completely synced with them only a few patches ago.

Now AC10s are. What is the optimal range on the AC10? What is the optimal range on the AC5?