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#121 Felio

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:23 AM

I tried to get used to it, but it's almost comical how long it is now.

#122 MechB Kotare

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:29 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 11 August 2014 - 07:10 AM, said:

Clan LPLaesers could be a substitute to Clan ERlasers if they had normal hitreg.

Unfortunately, they don't.


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Depends...

I think hitreg issues are both situational and individual.

#123 Willard Phule

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:30 AM

I'm hating the nerf, personally, but I've adapted.

I used to run 2xCERLL and 4xCERML and a TC4 on my TW. I lost the CERLLs and put in a single CERPPC and upgraded the TC to a 7. Speed is close to what it was before the nerf and it eats internals fast.

#124 Viges

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:55 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 10 August 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:


Or I can take an IS med and kill some Clammers....That works too.


The crying you'll do when you get your own Clam mechs.

If you can kill a clanner in IS mech it only means that your opponent is a terrible player, not that your are a good one.

They are nerfing clans already and its still months before madcat will be availible for cbills. Every sane person knew and said that, pgi even made public tests and released the data. But no - p2w scrubs still want their p2w toys very easy mode to continue. Pathetic.

#125 Mcgral18

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:43 AM

View PostViges, on 11 August 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

If you can kill a clanner in IS mech it only means that your opponent is a terrible player, not that your are a good one.

They are nerfing clans already and its still months before madcat will be availible for cbills. Every sane person knew and said that, pgi even made public tests and released the data. But no - p2w scrubs still want their p2w toys very easy mode to continue. Pathetic.


What's pathetic is your insulting people over the internet over things you don't understand.


That's just sad.

#126 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:02 AM

View PostViges, on 11 August 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

If you can kill a clanner in IS mech it only means that your opponent is a terrible player, not that your are a good one.

They are nerfing clans already and its still months before madcat will be availible for cbills. Every sane person knew and said that, pgi even made public tests and released the data. But no - p2w scrubs still want their p2w toys very easy mode to continue. Pathetic.


You can call it whatever you want to call it but it doesn't change the fact that I have several IS mechs totally out performing my Timber Wolf which is supposedly the most OPed Clan mech. I do well in my Timber Wolf but it isn't a dominating mech that smashes flat the competition by any means.

However, you too will finally be able to understand this when they release for C-bills.

The ironic thing is those same people screaming P2W and taking satisfacton right now because the resent some people were able to get immediate access to them, will be screaming how under powered clans are when they finally release (as PGI continues to nerf them to oblivion that is).

#127 Nemesis Duck

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:05 AM

Bad move, especially with the other game breaking issues that are getting worse. I'm hitting my teammates more because the CERLL is still firing by the time everyone starts moving.

Take the suggestions of the community and reduce burn time.

#128 Odins Fist

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:14 AM

2 second beam duration is a pathetic joke.

View PostViges, on 11 August 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

If you can kill a clanner in IS mech it only means that your opponent is a terrible player, not that your are a good one.



That blanket statement is an indication of 2 dimensional thinking.

Now show us on the Doll where the bad Clan Mech touched you. :)

#129 Lily from animove

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostOdins Fist, on 11 August 2014 - 10:14 AM, said:

2 second beam duration is a pathetic joke. That blanket statement is an indication of 2 dimensional thinking. Now show us on the Doll where the bad Clan Mech touched you. :)


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#130 Revis Volek

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:08 PM

View Postlartfor, on 09 August 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

I'd like to point out that the original values introduced with the release of clans were spot on relative to the increases that they have applied to the IS ERLL compared to it's TT equivalent... MWO IS ERLL does 12.5% more damage compared to TT, this 12.5% increase is also carried over to the MWO Clan ERLL. 8x1.125 = 9, 10x1.125=11.25. The relative difference in range is also carried over. Divide 890 by 675 and then divide 25 by 19, you will find that you're looking at almost exactly the same ratio.


As for my opinion about the current 11.25 dmg, 9 heat, 2.0 second, 890m range C ERLL... The increased burn duration is undeniably extremely awkward to use. Now unlike many of the posters above and in others threads, I do not think that the original implementation of the C ERLL was really broken at all. Sure, it scored big damage values against teribad pug players unwilling or unable to stay in cover... Against people that know how to play and how to use pp fla though? Yeah, these weapons were not and are even more so not viable. It's for this reason that I'd like to see the Clan ERLL maintain it's 11.25 damage, have it's heat increased to 9.5, duration reduced back to 1.5s, and have it's range cut to the 850m range...


Couldn't have said it better myself....





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