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Any Special Reason For Cn9-D Over Shd?


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#1 ArmandTulsen

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:42 AM

Can anybody give a good case for the CN9-D over the Shadowhawk?

I've mastered a SHD-2D2 and recently bought a CN9-D, but I'm starting to regret it.

#2 ArmandTulsen

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:00 PM

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#3 Orion Leftwind

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:27 PM

CN9-D over SHD? Nope can't reccomend it (and I've never driven an SHD).

I absolutely hated the CN9-D and could never find a load out that worked well for me. The only reasons why I had to pick up the D was I didn't want to spend cash on a Wang and PGI cut the CN9-AH from the roster. At the time that left only the CN9-A, CN9-AL and CN9-D available (w/o cash) to get to elite using Centurions.

#4 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:28 PM

The only reason is if you prefer the agility of the Cent. Other than that,they are currently useless compared to Hawks. I myself prefer Cents because of their agility. And I think the Cent looks cooler.

I'd run in like this just to piss people off with the chain fired AC2s.
CN9-D

Edited by mogs01gt, 11 August 2014 - 12:34 PM.


#5 John80sk

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

Other than the fun factor? No, not really.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c38360d686d3616

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...658ab9fe77dd306

My two most successful builds the the 9D. Really the only Cent with any reason to run it over the phoenix mediums is the A, and even that's a stretch (zombie capable, all SRM's come from the same point, very durable).

#6 Orion Leftwind

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:39 PM

I agree with Mogs01gt that Centurions are overshadowed by recently introduced mechs. I thought do still enjoy my CN9-AL (the only variant I have left my my mechbays).

The CN9-A made a good SRM boat, but the Griffin does a much better job at that now and has jump jets. If you stick with ballistics, the high mounted ballistics on the SHD are superior to the CN9 arm mounts.

Really the only thing a CN9 (sans XL engine) has going for it is its superior zombie ability. Centurions can take a hell of a beating and still keep fighting.

#7 ArmandTulsen

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:42 PM

Thanks for the input, guys.

TO THE TRASH BIN IT GOES!

#8 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:45 PM

View PostOrion Leftwind, on 11 August 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Really the only thing a CN9 (sans XL engine) has going for it is its superior zombie ability. Centurions can take a hell of a beating and still keep fighting.

I've gotten down to 22% left with an XL'd Cent. Lost a leg and both arms :wacko:.

#9 Orion Leftwind

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:47 PM

Oh it can be done, you just have to be really good at torso twisting. I never was that good.

#10 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:52 PM

View PostOrion Leftwind, on 11 August 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Oh it can be done, you just have to be really good at torso twisting. I never was that good.

The best I have ever seen is 14%.....not with an XL though.

#11 JesterMWO

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

Nothing wrong with running both mechs. :wacko:

I was a late convert to Centurions and the 9D is my favourite mech by far and my best-performing one for k/d. I like it because it survives well, especially if you torso twist a lot. I run mine with an AC2 and AC5 combination which has good range and you can keep up a good rate of fire. Two medium lasers in the CT as backup/extra damage/for when you lose your arms. XL 300 gives a decent speed so you can get around the back of heavier mechs and give chase to lights. Just work around the sides of the fight and don't take anything on head-on!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...934d942c4d7688c

#12 Foxwalker

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:56 AM

I think you missed the whole point of the Cent-D. Speed. With nearly 140 KPH top end, it can keep up with an IS light pack, and have a great deal more armor. Same with the Treb-3C. In the Treb I have a 380XL with 4 medium lasers and Streaks.
You can do a similar build to the Cent D. The Cent A is the best Zombie in the game.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...774e29edc058f8a

#13 Koniks

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 09:09 AM

Agility, arm-mounted ballistics, CT-mounted lasers, and a STD engine. SRMs to taste.

Both of them are outclassed by the Stormcrow.

#14 Orion Leftwind

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:36 AM

View PostMizeur, on 12 August 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Both of them are outclassed by the Stormcrow.


Yes, it's not that the Centurions are bad mechs, they are not. It's that they are outclassed by more recently introduced mechs.

#15 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:47 AM

The most important thing to take advantage of on a Cent-D is the high engine cap (you'll need something like a 320/325XL to a 350XL or even the 360-375XL), coupled with 2 ASRM6 (or SRM6) to give major damage to your targets while you shoot and run.

Doing anything outside of that is a waste of its ability to be an effective Light escort and anti-large mech nuisance.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:03 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 August 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

The only reason is if you prefer the agility of the Cent. Other than that,they are currently useless compared to Hawks. I myself prefer Cents because of their agility. And I think the Cent looks cooler.

I'd run in like this just to piss people off with the chain fired AC2s.
CN9-D



That does look like fun... trollolol..

I love it.

#17 Kin3ticX

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:25 PM

The CN9-D is not a great 'mech but its not really a bad 'mech either.

Back in closed beta this build used to wreck ****.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8a8cddb94f24389

Its just that SRMs were bad for a long time after the "mega nerf" and so many other 'mechs have come out since.

but I think currently, this one would perform overall better
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7a367763a8e80bf

Its just a matter of wanting to brawl or being really good at cradling your arm from damage.

DONT SELL THE XL300!

Edited by Kin3ticX, 12 August 2014 - 03:28 PM.


#18 Rear Admiral Tier 6

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:02 PM

if the cent had more than 2 energy hardpoints,it would be a beast with a large XL engine,but the Trebuchet 3C is a better choice for that since 4 energy hardpoints. 380 XL,LPL and 3 medium lasers always work.

#19 Vassago Rain

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:13 PM

Cents are fossils.

#20 Tiamat of the Sea

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:00 AM

The only reason for the D Centurion is mounting a big big engine to go fast. It's the only advantage it has that no other Centurion gets- and it can only really be made use of with XL engines, which unfortunately don't generally suit Centurions well.

Unless what you really want is an XL engine high-speed Centurion, no, there's no reason for a Centurion D over.... pretty much anything else, really. Shadowhawk or not.





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