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Khobai, on 18 August 2014 - 04:54 AM, said:
Elo is used to rank individual players in 1v1 games like chess. Elo was NEVER meant to be used in team vs team games.
Thats not to say it cant work in team vs team games, it can, provided an individual can still consistently alter the outcome of the game. Generally 5v5 is considered the absolute extent of an Elo based system (although you can make a convincing argument that Elo doesnt work in 5v5 either). More than 5 players per team starts to make it impossible for an individual to consistently influence the outcome of the game. At that point its no longer the sum of individual skill that matters but rather the collective skill of the team as a whole.
So the statement that Elo doesnt work in 12v12 is a correct one. Because an individual has very influence on the outcome of the game in 12v12. And if an individual cant consistently and significantly affect the outcome of the game then Elo cannot function as intended.
Although one way that Elo could work is if it actually looked at your match score rather than only looking at whether you W/L. Because in all fairness someone who loses but still has a high match score should get an Elo increase. While someone who wins but has a very low match score should not get an Elo increase.
First, they need to fix match score. Here's a case of how it's absolutely borked as well.
kamiko kross, on 17 August 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:
Bullet I know what you mean. Last week I had a good match in my Raven 3L. I narc'd and tagged my heart out. I got 18 spots. I covered my assaults as they pushed from lrm rain. I ferried mechs from start to meet up point with my ECM umbrella.
Basically I was as useful as possible. I helped my lrm boats nearly hit 1k damage, match score? 38. A guy in a heavy that did just over 200 damage scored more than me.
I'd say role warfare is dead alright. You do your role and get nothing for it!
Basically I was as useful as possible. I helped my lrm boats nearly hit 1k damage, match score? 38. A guy in a heavy that did just over 200 damage scored more than me.
I'd say role warfare is dead alright. You do your role and get nothing for it!
