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[Turist0AT]

Imagine actually having a base. Walk around and pick your mech, load the drop ship and stuff.
Now i made myself sad again.

Edited by Turist0AT, 18 August 2014 - 04:00 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Viktor Drake, on 18 August 2014 - 07:30 AM, said:

-lots of really good points-

The balance on a per tank basis in WOT or WT is way off kilter, not even to the point of being realistic. The Soviet Propaganda coming from those games is ridiculous. But the OP Russian **** aside, the games have relatively good balance, WT more so than WOT.

WOT just tries to match on a per-tank basis of "Team A has X# of tier Y tanks, so Team B gets X# of tier Y tanks." Which is sorta-kinda-not-really what we had in CB with the "Team A has 4 assaults, so Team B gets 4 assaults." And it failed. Horribly. Even worse than Elo matching. Because they try to make all mechs balance out, they end up making weaker mechs less desirable to play. Because I just love going against tier VI KVs in my tier IV PzIV, which is how it feels when I would take my AWS-8Q out and have to fight a herd of Dragonslayers.

WT has a nifty balance theme for their arcade fights with the garage thing going. And I've thought about the dropship emulator carrot that PGI dangled in front of our faces a while back and how instead of you selecting four mechs, you had like 250 tons to play with. So you could take ten commandos (and I would do it too...). Or you could take a Jenner, a Hunchy, a Cat, and an Atlas.Or any combination as long is it never exceeded 250 tons.

But "OH NOES, RESPAWNS R TEH BADDZ 4 GAEMZ, IT LESS SIMULATOR LIKE!!!" would be the typical response to having a respawn.

Could you imagine how much more fun Conquest would be if it was like the BF series of Conquest? You know? a ticket pool that drained by killing the enemy mechs and by holding the majority of caps? Suddenly lights have a purpose... Suddenly, the team that shows in Conquest fighting doesn't curbstomp the team that split up to cap. And as long as there are tickets, players can keep respawning with whatever their 250 tons of selected mech are.

Then there is Assault. Make assault into Attack/Defend, where one side has to guard an objective or series of OBJs while the other side has to capture/kill.

And we can just leave Skirmish as is, with the whole "one-and-done" spill, to keep the choices up.

If they did that, we'd have three radically different game modes instead of three Skirmish modes with salt and pepper added to taste.

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

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Unless you play in the kiddie pool.

YES! Dont forget the Ghost Heat and SRM! LRM were a bit OP, they are OK now. Rework streaks.

Oh and add easy mode for scrubs ppl like you.

Looks like like I peed in your kiddie pool.

[Turist0AT]

Lord Scarlett Johan of Yazoo, on 18 August 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

Looks like like I peed in your kiddie pool.

Dont play in kiddie pools, so you can pee in your pool all you want.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

Dont play in kiddie pools, so you can pee in your pool all you want.

If you play this game, you're playing in a kiddie pool.

[Turist0AT]

Lord Scarlett Johan of Yazoo, on 18 August 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

If you play this game, you're playing in a kiddie pool.

oooh right, thats what this game has become. No wonder the water tasted funny. Geee thx for peeing in my pool.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

oooh right, thats what this game has become. No wonder the water tasted funny. Geee thx for peeing in my pool.

It's all that beer. It makes me pee.

[Turist0AT]

Lord Scarlett Johan of Yazoo, on 18 August 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

It's all that beer. It makes me pee.

Its suppose to make you drunk. American beer? Sorry i didnt mean that. I bet you have fine beer in US.

Edited by Turist0AT, 18 August 2014 - 04:25 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

Its suppose to make you drunk. American beer? Sorry i didnt mean that.

Liquor makes you drunk, beer just makes you fat. And pee a lot.

Also, what is American beer? I don't even.

Also also, how long you think we can keep this derailed?

[Turist0AT]

Lord Scarlett Johan of Yazoo, on 18 August 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

Liquor makes you drunk, beer just makes you fat. And pee a lot.

Also, what is American beer? I don't even.

Also also, how long you think we can keep this derailed?

i said i was sorry and your beer is probably really nice and makes you really drunk(or fat or whatever).

I dont know, was gona ask you the same thing. A bit off topic are we?

Edited by Turist0AT, 18 August 2014 - 04:31 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

I dont know, was gona ask you the same thing. A bit off topic are we?

Is it bad this is more entertaining than the game at the moment?

[Turist0AT]

Lord Scarlett Johan of Yazoo, on 18 August 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

Is it bad this is more entertaining than the game at the moment?

Its pretty sad. Guess ill go and grind that mech and play that same map again..

like the temperature of the water here. thx for heating it up a notch.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Turist0AT, on 18 August 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Its pretty sad. Guess ill go and grind that mech and play that same map again..

like the temperature of the water here. thx for heating it up a notch.

Have fun, and don't forget your whatever is OP at the moment water wings.

[Slepnir]

1. map packs are sellable, both expansion packs for BF3 were all about new maps, same with titanfall.

2.I love war thunder, and I play it alot, however even though the ground battle maps look fantastic most of them are to small. the only 2 maps I really lol love are Carpathian and kursk in real or simulation mode where the increased size of the maps and the correct mix of terrain for WWII tank battles(not boxed canyons) makes for interesting games.

3. if you want map diversity think of how the old MW2-4 maps would look.if updated to MWO.
huge maps with rolling deserts, temperate mountanside forests, river deltas, proper cities (the battle at central park in MW4). with missions like convoy escort, infrastructure raids, drop ship MPU raids etc...... thtas what this game should be.

[Mawai]

Sephlock, on 17 August 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

Map Department?

No.

Art department.

Art makes mechs ...
Art makes camo ...
Art makes cockpit items ...
Art makes a minimum amount of maps since they don't make money ...

I think it was mentioned that some work would get done on the next two maps now that the clan pack was out of the way ...

http://mwomercs.com/...um-60-days-out/

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3552684

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3559661

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3559695

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3560121

[Nemesis Duck]

Viktor Drake, on 18 August 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

...

I remember a computer company I worked for. At the time is was bigger than Dell and its stock split like two to three times in less than 2 years because it was doing so well. Then new management came in and basically looked at the financials and realized that they only made about a 10% profit on selling a computer but made anywhere from 25%-200% profit on selling printers, scanners, cables and software. They then made it mandatory for its sales reps to sell 5 addons for each computer in order to keep our jobs so inevitably the sales reps stop focusing on selling computers and focused on selling everything else.

Here is the problem, they forgot that Software, Printers, Scanners and cables were useless without the computer and that people were coming to the store to buy a computer not the other stuff so the company closed its retail operation about 6 months after the change.

PGI is doing the same thing. The are forgetting that Hero mechs, Clan packs and swag are useless without a good game to back it up. If they don't get it though their head soon that the Game needs to come first, they are going to end up just like that multibillion dollar computer company I worked for that lost 75% of its market share in 6 months.

That sounds like HP (Hewlett-Packard).

[Davers]

It's sad that if they spent every dime from Clan mech sales, and made map making their highest priority, it would only be 12 maps and it would take 4 years to release them all.

[Kyle Wright]

William Mountbank, on 18 August 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

I see a lot of posts mentioning how MW:LL has great maps made by enthusiasts in their spare time.

As an enthusiast with some spare time who was once a character mesh artist, I would rather see posts asking for 3rd party tools and an open match making platform. You know, like all those FPS games have had for the last 20 years. Give me the tools and I'll slap you right in your mech loving face with so much jungle/urban/swamp/meadow/disneyworld content you'll choke like an Astech in a coolant bath.

But I guess instead we can just shoot the breeze while we wait for PGI to sort of suggest they might promise to one day do that, like after they've made enough money so that they can comfortably waste their time on non-commercial fripperies.

Sign me up. I did some map designs for megamek, nothing special compared to this. If given the tools Id love to doodle around and make some great maps for people. **** id do it for free or if you want to compensate me for time toss some premium time my way or MC.