141 replies to this topic

[McScwizzy]

I don't hate them, I am just not a big fan of them. It would be fun to pick off their legs one by one though.

[Stormeris]

Only leggers hate Quads, because to quads are legger's nightmare, due to having to destroy twice as many legs

[Xander185]

The real reason most folks don't like them. They don't look humanoid and so we don't identify them with ourselves as readily as we do the 2 legged mechs. TT rules aside and everything else, we like them because we can pretend we are them easier.

[Stormeris]

Xander185, on 22 June 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

The real reason most folks don't like them. They don't look humanoid and so we don't identify them with ourselves as readily as we do the 2 legged mechs. TT rules aside and everything else, we like them because we can pretend we are them easier.

One word will destroy your argument:
STALKER
Most people on the forums want it!
What about Raven? Jenner? Catapult?
They're everything BUT humanoid

[Inappropriate503]

Are the four legged mechs really without any torso rotation in the battletech canon? To me it sounds just fine to have torso rotation on both designs. Think it as a tank with turret. Doesn't really matter if you have four legs or two - you can still have a turret and the torso effectively is just a rotating turret.

There also seems to have been three legged mechs as well:
http://www.sarna.net...res_(BattleMech)

Edited by PissdOffChuchNorrisWithChainsaw, 22 June 2012 - 05:31 AM.

[Winfield]

Now lets just say, I've never played the TTs so I don't understand why quads wouldn't be good(and judging from the comments thus far it only seems to be preferance).

I think both Bipedal and Quad mechs have their place, and if possible I would want to even pilot a quad. Makes me remember the quad mech from Lost Planet series, good stuff.

Now, the best argument thus far has been flanking, but bearing in mind that the combat in this game is team based, it shouldn't be a problem.

If you were soloing like a muppet in a quad you deserve to get killed, same as every other mech.

[Adrienne Vorton]

i just don´t like them... nah wrong...i REALLY don´t like them... most of the quad designs are not what my sense of "mech" is...

no Mech:

NO MECH:


MECH!!!

dont get me wrong, i like trans formers, in transformers but battletech is battletech

Edited by Adrienne Vorton, 22 June 2012 - 05:34 AM.

[Winfield]

Adrienne Vorton, on 22 June 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

i just don´t like them... nah wrong...i REALLY don´t like them... most of the quad designs are not what my sense of "mech" is...

no Mech:

NO MECH:


MECH!!!

That's just like, your opinion, man.

[Stormeris]

Adrienne Vorton, on 22 June 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

i just don´t like them... nah wrong...i REALLY don´t like them... most of the quad designs are not what my sense of "mech" is...

no Mech:

NO MECH:


MECH!!!

dont get me wrong, i like trans formers, in transformers but battletech is battletech

MECH

Starscream, oh wait its a Land air MECH...sadly also a mech


A mech too....unfortunately

Edited by Stormeris, 22 June 2012 - 05:38 AM.

[Fastred]

Stormeris, on 22 June 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Technically having 4 legs makes Quads less armed (hehehe) but they're more mobile, having the ability to move sideways and im pretty sure have faster turning speed and also are much more stable while shooting and etc.

My main reason for disliking the quad mechs in the table top game was a simple matter of hit locations and losing the arm firing arc. Losing one, leg on any mech immobilizes the chassis. Since the quad had a slightly modified hit table where arm hits became leg hits you were twice as likely to be hit in a location that had the potential to immobilize you in a quad mech. (Pardon need to edit. Spent too many years playing Mechwarrior games. A quad was immobilized if it lost a leg in table top but I believe the bi pedial mechs could still limp along, can anyone verify this its been a couple years and I don't have a book availalbe to me at the moment.)

The net effect in the game mechanic was this.

Pros.
The sideways movement gave some tactical advantage.

Cons
1. You mech was twice as likely to be hit in location that could immobilize it.
2. Losing the arm mounted weapons firing arc.

Now how this plays out in a computer simulation I guess I will have to re-evaluate my current bias when they let me play with quad mechs in this game. Just my two cents and sorry if I restated the obvious but have limited time to read the threads so your warned.

Regards,
Red

Edited by Fastred, 22 June 2012 - 05:46 AM.

[Fl3tcher]

Using TT with a few of the varient rules I just run quads with a 360 turret. . it's called "the head" works really well with a torso mounted cockpit. . (level 3 rules, so not standard BT TT which is level 2, but they really make quads interesting)

But of course, none of that is canon so to speak . .

[Stormeris]

Fl3tcher, on 22 June 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

Using TT with a few of the varient rules I just run quads with a 360 turret. . it's called "the head" works really well with a torso mounted cockpit. . (level 3 rules, so not standard BT TT which is level 2, but they really make quads interesting)

But of course, none of that is canon so to speak . .

This game isn't considered canon so to speak...

[DuncanPwnz]

Tripod break in thread!
http://www.sarna.net...es_(BattleMech)

[McScwizzy]

DuncanPwnz, on 22 June 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

Tripod break in thread!
http://www.sarna.net...es_(BattleMech)

Ugh not the Ares! Get that abomination out of here!

[Watchit]

Oh look, another quad thread.

[Stormeris]

Watchit, on 22 June 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

Oh look, another quad thread.

[Eiki]

I just don't like quads. That's all.

[Stormeris]

Eiki, on 22 June 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

I just don't like quads. That's all.

Atleast you're being straighforward and not saying your opinion hidden behind false facts

[George Ledoux]

Personally, my favorite mech is the Great Turtle. I prefer the mechs that look less humanoid. Plus, as a person with terrible piloting skills I need something that can take an extreme amount of damage before I get killed.

[Scabrous]

I read this and all I can see is a crying Xanthos or Tarantula.